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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266   
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which ever comes first, ie either time or mileage Mike,my dealer at the 2yr/24k service tried to charge me extra for greasing the prop shafts and the brake fluid change all listed on the schedule. txxxers ! 2.4 90 XS
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29th Dec 2010 8:40am |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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From LR service sheet
GLOSSARY: MAIN SERVICE = The main service is applicable to all vehicles. It is carried out at 12 month or 12,000 mile intervals, whichever occurs first. Main Service "A" is applicable at 12 months/12,000 miles, 36 months/36,000 miles, 60 months/60,000 miles 84 months/84,000 miles and so on. Main Service "B" is applicable at 24 months/24,000 miles, 48 months/48,000 miles, 72 months/72,000 miles, 96 months/96,000 miles and so on. Some items do not need to be carried out at every main service and these items are identified by an indicator in the tick box e.g. 60k (This indicates that this item is only applicable every 60,000 miles) The gearbox is "filled for life" (means change the oil at 82,000 miles) NOTE: The service required should be at the time or distance stated, which ever occurs first. Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition 
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29th Dec 2010 8:54am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038 
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Thanks grockel
I know the normal A and B services are 12 months or 12000miles etc - like i said i posted the service sheet on here years ago  but it wasnt really my question
It was the odd items that have a SPECIFIC mileage so not the standard service intervals that dgardel mentioned (which is self explanitory!) Just as an aside dgardel, the gear box according to the UK service sheet is 120,000 miles not the 82, 000 stated have a look in my gallery for my original posting Mike |
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29th Dec 2010 10:00am |
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| noworries4x4 Member Since: 24 Dec 2010 Location: Newton Abbot Devon Posts: 1195 
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Blimey does a Puma gearbox last 120thou ??
Ive had 2 already both went west at about 50thou yet still on same clutch at 150thou And rear diffs on the 3rd one of them Defenders realy arnt designed to be constantly bashing up and down the motorway network day in day out If everything is under control you are not going fast enough. Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle Weekends 07MY L322 TDV8 Vogue SE Series 1 80" 3ltr 6cyl with overdrive No Worries 4X4 |
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29th Dec 2010 10:27am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038
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I hope they are because mine mainly does that! I know the service lengths are worrying!! Mike |
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29th Dec 2010 10:28am |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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82.000 is MY suggestion!!!  Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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29th Dec 2010 10:30am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038
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If we are on suggestions i wouldnt get much past 48k 
Still not looked into fluid change on the box at all yet - i may suddenly think 300k is easier  Mike |
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29th Dec 2010 10:35am |
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| Toplink Member Since: 05 Dec 2010 Location: Somerset Posts: 159
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The service intervals are a joke
I changed all my oils (except the G/box) at 1000miles.Axle oils were very dirty and the T/box was 1litre short of full! Engine oil and filter no problem. I fitted the axles with magnetic drain plugs. Since then I have done this every 6000miles,fuel and air filter every 12000miles.Propshafts are greased every 1-2000miles. I have not touched the G/box as I want to see how long it lasts. My grandfather was a motor engineer in the early 1900's.He always said to me that the cheapest things you can buy for a motor vehicle is oil and grease. I took up the issue of the dirty axle oils with 2 local Stealers.To which I was told this is perfectly normal,which is why I do all my own servicing and repairs. I have a theory on the axle oils being dirty.I think that the quality of the machine finish is not as it used to be and they are relying on it lapping in through use.This would be fine if oils were changed at short intervals. The more I see of future motor manufacturing the more I want to regress. Its never over in my land rover. 2007 Defender HTop. 1952 Series One 80" 1977 Muir-Hill 111. 2014 Triumph Tiger800xc 1999 Discovery 2 td5 1982 Ransomes TSR300D. 2002 Yamaha XT600e. 2010 Freelander2 (the wifes) 2008 John Deere X140 |
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2nd Jan 2011 9:23pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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what do yo mean with "dirty"?
the foggy-black color is given by the MoS grease on the CV-join..... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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2nd Jan 2011 9:52pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038
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I think there is a balance.
Materials have improved as have the oils and the chemicals used...there have been many advances and this does allow a longer service - i do believe that. Whether some of the intervals are proven or appropriate...who knows...certainly there are terrian factors. Motorway vs African Bush have their different demands. That said - i knew a taxi driver that would buy cheap oil and change it and the filter every few thousand miles. My view is get the best quality oil and change it at the manufacture's interval or less on balance of other factors. Mike |
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2nd Jan 2011 9:56pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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I agree 100%!!!!!!! Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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2nd Jan 2011 10:07pm |
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| Toplink Member Since: 05 Dec 2010 Location: Somerset Posts: 159
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[quote="dgardel"]what do yo mean with "dirty"?
the foggy-black color is given by the MoS grease on the CV-join.....[/quote] No dirty metalic oil in front and rear axle.The cv grease is stealer speak. My 200 tdi Disco never had the grease colouring the axle oil in 200k miles.(and yes it had grease and not oil). As my 90 is a working vehicle on and off road I will stick to my 6000mile services.Quality oil is realy cheap compared with metal parts. Its never over in my land rover. 2007 Defender HTop. 1952 Series One 80" 1977 Muir-Hill 111. 2014 Triumph Tiger800xc 1999 Discovery 2 td5 1982 Ransomes TSR300D. 2002 Yamaha XT600e. 2010 Freelander2 (the wifes) 2008 John Deere X140 |
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2nd Jan 2011 10:46pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2432  
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having oil on wheel bearings or MoS2 in the diff is another plus from LR
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2nd Jan 2011 11:29pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038
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I dont think anyone is disagreeing
I think there is an expression of balance...actually you want longer service intervals (and this can be positive for the components as well) for a cost, environmental and serviceability perspective. I think there has to be an acknoledgement that the componets have changed and arent 100% the same as the 200 or 300tdi (or even TD5). Im not sure what you mean by the cv grease is stealer speaker. On the 200 and early 300's there was a filler for the cv's when they were oil and then through the transition to grease for life...moving now from the late 300's you can no longer drain them Mike |
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3rd Jan 2011 12:27am |
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