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Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
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Which way to go?

Having owned Range Rovers with a lady who sounds like Joanna Lumley residing in the dash telling me which route to take when I'm on a journey I find it a little surprising that one piece of kit that LR has seen fit to omit from the Adventure Celebration model's long list of goodies is a built-in Sat-Nav. So not wanting to hack the dash of my forthcoming Defender to bits fitting a double DIN slot to house one of the fantastic Parrott systems ( have the single DIN Asteriod in my TDi 300 and as commented in other posts it is a great piece of kit) I was wondering what views people have on various systems and apps.
I have an iPad 2 Air, and two previous versions ofi Ipad with Memory Map Navigator but that doesn't give turn by turn routing, I have the NavFree satnav app on the iPads but don't find it that great. I use an iPad on a Broditt mount on the dash of my 90 but Puma's dash is incompatible with that so I would have to buy a new mount, but what do other people use? I was wondering about something smaller than the iPads on the dash but don't really want to have a suction mount on the screen. Suggestions please. I was wondering about an iPad 3 Mini as nice and small but I'm not sure if Broditt do dash mount for them. So basically any recommendations for good turn by turn routing apps for an iPad with 4g and wifi that can cope with postcode entry as well as full address entry? Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
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11th Jan 2015 11:43am

RobKeay

Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
Posts: 1585

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

Ram mount and Google maps gets me to my jobs. If I want the lads to find me I send them a drop pin.

11th Jan 2015 12:29pm

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

I use navfree. Works great in The Netherlands. I didn't test it in the UK.

And it free so easy to test.

And works offline too. Roel

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11th Jan 2015 12:30pm

TJ101

Member Since: 30 May 2007
Location: Taunton Somerset
Posts: 3750

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

Tim

Use a I pad with ram mount on the passenger grab handle,and run MM,Co-pilot,google, app plus Pioneer single din sat nav/phone unit in the dash

I pad does keep the co driver quite on long trips

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11th Jan 2015 12:50pm

landy andy

Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Ware, Herts
Posts: 5729

2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver

I use Navigon on iPad and iPhone, and think it's great. Cost money but you get what you pay for. It's postcode to all of Europe and has many nice features.

Andy.

11th Jan 2015 1:02pm

Venomator

Member Since: 25 Aug 2014
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 2087

Native Maps on my iPhone 6 or iPad Mini, both of which I use in the awesome RAM Mount system...

Apple's native Maps App has improved beyond recognition now and has never let me down yet...

And is perfect with Postcodes too... Rog...

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11th Jan 2015 1:33pm

deplec

Member Since: 21 Aug 2012
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 152

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Zambezi Silver

I use an iPad mini (with cellular for the GPS) on a Brodit pro clip. Looks good and is very stable. Also good for tunes to the stereo.

I use the inbuilt Apple navigation for anything on the road. Never let me down, integrates with Siri - works a treat. Postcodes work fine. I don't know what the spoken instructions are like as I have them on perm-mute.

I use the View Ranger App for anything away from tarmac. You just download O/S maps in your preferred scale.

Not the cheapest way to do it, but it is slick and works and its a nice big screen.

11th Jan 2015 1:52pm

deplec

Member Since: 21 Aug 2012
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 152

This is what I bought...

http://www.brodit.com/product.html?id=5115...20mini%203

11th Jan 2015 1:59pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

Software-wise, I have found nothing comes close to AutoRoute with it's ability to plan a route or amend on the fly to avoid certain places or routes. It will also give you turn by turn directions.

The biggest issue I have with standard setups is the screen size and the ability to see the whole route or several route options and decide for yourself which is the best way you want to go.

11th Jan 2015 2:32pm

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey

I've had good experiences with CoPilot before.

13th Jan 2015 9:00am

tookaphotoof

Member Since: 18 Mar 2013
Location: dordrecht
Posts: 1279

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black

Absolutely satisfied with the free Waze app on an iPhone / iPad. the only problem is when you want to navigate abroad, as that will probably be an expensive exercise. Doesn't work offline.

Experimenting with Gaia on an iPad to see if I can use it for roadtrips. Maps are impressively detailed but take too much space when you want to download the maps. Only the Netherlands alone need over 64GB and therefore doesn't fit on my iPad.
Other app I'm looking into is Memory Map.
We'll see what works best for my next trip abroad.

13th Jan 2015 9:13am

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

Give Nav free a try.

On a Apple device you might need multiple apps if you want more countries for free on an andriod system you can download multiple countries for free. Roel

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13th Jan 2015 6:35pm

Bionicmunky

Member Since: 15 Oct 2013
Location: High Wycombe - Buckinghamshire
Posts: 108

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Waze is free and includes traffic (for free).

14th Jan 2015 10:07pm

Landlord

Member Since: 27 Oct 2009
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 582

Tim, long time since I've heard your dulcet tones !

What about using Transas

I'm using Tom Tom app on iPad and IPhone, takes the usuall address format and post code search. Not free but seems to work well. 2007 TD5 90 Hard Top

14th Jan 2015 10:16pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Re: Which way to go?

Tim in Scotland wrote:
Having owned Range Rovers with a lady who sounds like Joanna Lumley residing in the dash telling me which route to take when I'm on a journey I find it a little surprising that one piece of kit that LR has seen fit to omit from the Adventure Celebration model's long list of goodies is a built-in Sat-Nav. but don't really want to have a suction mount on the screen. Suggestions please.

They did not forget in 2008.

I guess the fixed Garmin mount for the SVX is still available as accessory from LR, and pretty sure that on the base mount you just can click-fix a cradle for the present generation Garmin Nüvis. You won't have the sound coming via a dedicated behind the dash speaker like with my SVX, but todays Garmin cradles have a built in speaker... Only thing you have to get from LR is the base mount plus the behind the dash stabilizing plate (I believe there is one), connect todays generation Nüvi power cable behind the dash, and then you plug a new generation Nüvi with its dedicated cradle onto the ball of the fixed base mount, connect the power cable, and you're off. The size of that ball has never changed through the years, so new cradles should fit without problem. (the Garmin cradle for my wife's recent Nüvi 3590LMT fits onto that mount ball). This Garmin mount from LR is almost totally vibration free, very very stable. You really have to find a very very bad road to have a slight vibration.
That is the cleanest solution I think which suits the Defender dash very well, and Joanna Lumley would sound as if sitting in the middle seat.

Eric

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15th Jan 2015 1:49am

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