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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127   
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Reading my owners hand book on page 123 states (with pictures) towing eyes front and rear, for on road recovery Which on my front one, shares a bolt with the front bumper! I clearly miss under stood the question as to front or rear "tow hook" But can't see what the fascination is regarding where my towing eye bolts to? It's a standard landrover as it left the factory and that's where it's fixed! Hope this helps you all. 80" 80" 86" 88" 90" Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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6th Jan 2015 7:53pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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Ian, may I politely suggest you have a good read of your manual.
I have just googled the Defender handbook and page 123 is NOT towing equipment as most of us understand towing equipment. Yes I know LR uses the expression towing points but they are lash down eyes with a single bolt through the chassis and does not use a bumper bolt. It also includes the warning
I took the information from HERE Brendan |
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6th Jan 2015 8:44pm |
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| ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831 
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Leeds......................I think you are getting yourself confused, I believe that Ian is talking about an eye that sits on top of the front bumper and the bumper bolts pass through it. They are used in a similar way to JAT rings. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to  us off.
Richard |
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6th Jan 2015 8:52pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127
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Personally I give up, can't see why this is such an "issue"
My handbook calls them recovery eyes for road only recovery! I don't really care where they are fixed, as long as bolted on somewhere to the chassis that's fine with me!  80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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6th Jan 2015 9:03pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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Richard, at first I was thinking along your lines, however have a good look at page 123 f the Defenders handbook.
The page is headed Vehicle Recovery. It then refers to front and rear towing points and the diagrams clearly shows what we refer to as lash down eyes It then has the following warnings
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Ian, those lash down eyes are meant for lashing down the Defender whilst recovering the vehicle on a flatbed or trailer. They are not suitable for towing a trailer or caravan. They are not suitable for towing/recovering a vehicle in an off road situation.If I look hard enough through my photos I have some showing the lash down eyes badly bent. Brendan |
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6th Jan 2015 9:24pm |
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| TJ101 Member Since: 30 May 2007 Location: Taunton Somerset Posts: 3750  
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Hi Ian
No issue whatsoever here 
All my Puma's from 2007, from the factory, have not had any item fixed via the 4 bolts (2 either side) that go on the front of the chassis rails, bar to hold the front bumper one, whether the std LR bumper or a winch bumper There were never any front towing eyes fixed through the bumper bolts from standard People have fitted something like this, as a recovery eye 
Personally i would prefer to fit something more substantial to use for recovery ie Jate rings ,, as would what a tad more metal to support the bolts
All Landrover fit as standard, are lashing rings to the side of the chassis rails at each corner, just as Brendan has posted above, and the instructions for their use California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1 Main Brian James Trailer Dealer for South West UK |
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6th Jan 2015 9:27pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127
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Why would anyone want to tow a caravan or trailer on them?
I tend to use the tow bar on the back 
Brendan, I see where your coming from but I as I see it and I'm sure many other people will, it LOOKS like a towing eye, simple as that! Sure I would not use it to pull a defender up to its axles in mud, that would be stupid! But I'm sure many have used it for towing Like I said, mine simply bolts through the front bumper bolt (right or wrong it does not worry me) which was the cause of all the confusion???? Let's leave it there as I am loosing the will to live  80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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6th Jan 2015 9:36pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Interesting previous discussion here http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic6502.html Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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6th Jan 2015 11:27pm |
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