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| Charlie Spitfire Member Since: 16 May 2015 Location: Chartres Posts: 55   
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I have a 2008 Puma TDCI 90 2.4L with 65K on the clock. I have had it second hand since 55K on the clock. It came from a reputable dealer and when I swopped out my transmission oils they looked clean as per the scheduled 50Kmile services.
So blostered in confidence by all the excellent advice found here I am in the process of doing my first service, I have changed my engine oil, gearbox oil, transfer box oil, diff oils x2, air filter, fuel filter and I have greased my prop shafts and UV joints. Next I need to look at my wheels and brakes. I have a question about brake pads, do I have to take the wheels off to check my brake pads? Also how do I check them, what am I looking for? I poked about this morning looking behind the front wheel and I can't really see what I am supposed to be looking at ? Is there some kind of indicator or tel tell ? Next up is brake fluid. I believe that this has to be changed every two years. Is there any way of figuring out when it was last done? I mean do the brakes go spongy as the fluid get older? Does it change colour or are there any other clues to the need to change brake fluid? Is it better to do this routinely or to wait until it needs to be done? What about wheel bearings? and swivel joints? Are these service items or do I just wait until the man at the MOT says my wheels are wobbly. I can't see these in the schedule below so I am completely & utterly in the dark here? Should I even be thinking about doing this at home? Any advice anyone can give with be very much appreciated Charlie Spitfire x  Click image to enlarge |
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13th Oct 2015 1:42pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2754 
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I've just changed the discs, pads and wheel bearings on my 2.4 110.
Pads it's best just to whip the wheel off yes, and just look at the thickness of pad remaining on each side. It's not a hard job to to and only ~Ł50 in parts for pads all round. Also a good time to look at the hub etc and see what condition it's in. Bearings are a much bigger job but still doable. It took me about 8 hours to do the pads, discs and bearings PER PAIR. Having the right tools makes it a hard or an easy job. If you have any specific questions let me know as I've just spend a lot of time around this area! Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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13th Oct 2015 4:19pm |
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| Charlie Spitfire Member Since: 16 May 2015 Location: Chartres Posts: 55
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Ok understood, take the wheels off look at the pads. How do I know if the bearings need greasing or not?
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13th Oct 2015 4:26pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2754
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Wheels bearings don't need changing unless you have noise or vibration from them 👍 They generally last between 50,000 and 150,000 miles. What generally kills them is water ingress and corrosion.
But when one goes (as I had) you should change both sides or all round, as in my head anyway the others can't be far behind. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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13th Oct 2015 4:30pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2754
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^
 Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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13th Oct 2015 4:31pm |
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| Charlie Spitfire Member Since: 16 May 2015 Location: Chartres Posts: 55
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OK so take the wheels off and inspect the pads.
When the pads need changing buy new pads and the one shot grease pouches from Paddocks and do the pads and swivel joints at the same time. Now do I grease the bearings at the same time or do I wait for them just to wear out, vibrate, make noise etc and change them? |
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13th Oct 2015 4:57pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2754
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You can't really 'grease' the bearings. Well at least there's no point since you might as well replace them if you'd stripped the hub down etc to get the access them.
They just get greased when you replace them then they're sealed for the life of the bearings Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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13th Oct 2015 5:19pm |
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| Charlie Spitfire Member Since: 16 May 2015 Location: Chartres Posts: 55
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Thanks David, understood so no need to grease the bearings. Can I ask one more question?
When do I change the brake fluid? Is that a routine by the mileage job or am I waiting for the brakes to go spongy? |
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13th Oct 2015 6:27pm |
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| MR_JAMES Member Since: 10 Oct 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 248 
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You change the brake fluid because it absorbs moisture from the air and turns dark brown. The moisture then corrodes the insides of your brake system eventually.
You can buy a brake fluid tester to test the moisture content - they are cheap. 1953 80" 1987 mini city e 2011 90" |
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13th Oct 2015 9:27pm |
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| Charlie Spitfire Member Since: 16 May 2015 Location: Chartres Posts: 55
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A "brake fluid tester" blimey come around here and you learn something new every day <smile>
Many thanks gentlemen properly helpful you lot !!!! |
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13th Oct 2015 9:34pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2754
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MrJames seems to know his stuff. I seemed to have in my head that if it seems ok it probably is. But that's a more scientific approach to that
No worries, if you wanna know anything else then fire away. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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13th Oct 2015 10:03pm |
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