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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5108   
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Sorry I do not wish to cause offence but I do not believe in guns, even less the killing of Rabbits, Birds etc.
vermin can be controlled with more humane measures. I have seen animals suffer from people who do not get a clean shot. Sorry but that is how I feel. Target shooting and Clay pigeon shooting I suppose is fine but I still do not believe in guns. |
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31st Oct 2014 7:16pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443  
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Each to their own, I can't see the attraction and hysteria that goes with football but we have a common interest on here with Land Rovers which bring together a very wide range of people together and demonstrates that we can all get on together when the excess baggage is forgotten about.
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31st Oct 2014 7:29pm |
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| Jonno1968 Member Since: 24 Oct 2013 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 245  
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You say vermin can be controlled.......So how do you control vermin without killing them? Say pigeons for example? And dont say a bloody scarecrow cos that dont work. So next time you tuck into your cornflakes think how the crop got produced. Have you ever seen what a fox does to a feild of lambs? It just rips them all apart. Do you prefer to let that happen or just put a slug staight through the heart of a fox and drop it to the ground in a nano second instead.???
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31st Oct 2014 7:32pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443
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Steady, I agree completely with shooting as a method of vermin control. A clean shot is instant and final, those that cannot achieve that are the people that any anger is directed at not the method. Poisoning and trapping are drawn out proceedures and strike on the bounds of morality. The humane way to end any creatures life for whatever reason should be instant, a good shot is far better than anything else.
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31st Oct 2014 7:39pm |
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| Defender-Stu Member Since: 14 Jun 2012 Location: South West England Posts: 1320
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 Hold on guys this is not A forum to start issues etc,
Im a shooter my self, part time farmer and ex game keeper and i back the hunt in my area etc but i do also see where other parties are coming from in there views, the main reason for animal suffering is due to someone who is a bad shot, but on the other hand, vermin being killed by traps or poison die a worse death as its longer then a Stag, rabbit or fox getting a lung, heart or head shot! You may not believe in guns but there out there, and there used to put food on the table and to protect food that goes on the table from a supermarket and has done for years! I could go on and on about town and city folk but i wont because as i said i see the view of others and respect that! If you did not like then post then report it to martin and get it stopped! Cheers Stu Sorry Jonno, for my rant, what guns do you shoot? if its anything else apart from a Beretta then i may get bord lol   Last edited by Defender-Stu on 31st Oct 2014 7:55pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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31st Oct 2014 7:52pm |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 
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^^^ Well Said.
 Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197
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31st Oct 2014 7:54pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7987  
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is there anything other than a Beretta that anyone worth their salt would be seen dead with! (ducking for cover!) hopefully you will see the double pun!! Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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31st Oct 2014 8:35pm |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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I'd never list publicly my arsenal it's between me and my FAo
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31st Oct 2014 8:35pm |
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| bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189 
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Back to OP
Try http://www.shootclayforum.com/ A lot of world class shooters on there with plenty of fun and serious advice. Found them very helpful PS......Miroku for me ! BM52 |
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31st Oct 2014 8:59pm |
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| me@td5.org Member Since: 16 Jan 2011 Location: Warwick Posts: 856 
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Does for FAo need to know what you have or just that you are a suitable person to own them? www.td5.org |
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31st Oct 2014 9:08pm |
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| bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189
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If you apply for a SGC [Shot Gun Cert] you are investigated by the FAO and have an interview. Also need to ensure all security aspects are met.
The SGC also lists all guns. There are specific rules you need to understand. Lots on the web to review and would suggest you contact your local FAO. They are human and all the ones I have met have all been very helpful and friendly. BM52 |
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31st Oct 2014 9:18pm |
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| Jonno1968 Member Since: 24 Oct 2013 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 245
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just for the record.....its Beretta. A beautiful piece of engineering.
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1st Nov 2014 8:12am |
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| Spookytooth Member Since: 19 Jan 2014 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 202 
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Just received my shotgun licence. Clay shooting only, any recommendations for a first gun?
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1st Nov 2014 8:25am |
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| Jonno1968 Member Since: 24 Oct 2013 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 245
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second hand obviously and I am sure lots of people will suggest makes and models etc but the most important thing is the fit. Get it wrong and your shooting will suffer badly. I had a badly fitted gun and when I took some lessons it became clear that the stock was two inches too short. Got a gun that fitted and those clays did not stand a chance!!!
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