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blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17381

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Advice re. imminent purchase

I am looking at an 07 plate 110 XS double cab with the Puma engine which I have been offered (its first MOT is taking place today). It looks good and the price is right. Before I commit, could someone in the know tell me:-

1) What mods etc should have been carried out to an early TDCI (eg sump change, clutch upgrade etc) and is there any way I can verify these visually (I guess that LR service records will show, but they probably won't tell me unless I buy it and book it in for a service).

2) Are there any known issues weaknesses I should be aware of?

3) Who makes the best and most suitable swing-away spare wheel carriers?

The vehicle in question has 57k miles on the clock, 33k put on in the last year (I know the present owner well) and has been regulrly services by an independent, non-Landrover-specific, garage with a good reputation.

Sorry for all the questions, but I am new to the Puma Defender having been a TD5 Disco 2 man up to now.

Thanks.

21st Jun 2010 11:20am

bob neville

Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Marbella
Posts: 3248

I can answer number 3 - Sonic3d (Matt) of this very forum

Have a look in my gallery for other pics.

Bob

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21st Jun 2010 11:30am

Grockle

Member Since: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Peak District National Park
Posts: 2266

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

ask what recalls have been carried out on the truck 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.

21st Jun 2010 12:01pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17381

That looks exactly what I had in mind, thanks.

21st Jun 2010 12:07pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17381

Grockle wrote:
ask what recalls have been carried out on the truck

None in the last year at least. What recalls should have been carried out on an 07?

Thanks.

21st Jun 2010 12:08pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey

The only recalls to date is the sump on an 07 some others have had a recall on the flange in the hand brake drum....but that was on late 07/08
Sonic wheel carrier is about the best you will get ...
The known issues weaknesses you should be aware of is the clutch...but my last one seems fine

Ask you mate to get all the service and warranty records of L/R they will print them out for him

NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY

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21st Jun 2010 1:48pm

Grockle

Member Since: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Peak District National Park
Posts: 2266

blackwolf wrote:
Grockle wrote:
ask what recalls have been carried out on the truck

None in the last year at least. What recalls should have been carried out on an 07?

Thanks.

what Karl said plus vac pump 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.

21st Jun 2010 1:51pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17381

Thanks for the advice everyone. Is there an easy way visually to tell the revised sump from the first type?

If the clutch and/or vac pump needs changing, is it likely that they would be done FOC despite the waranty period having expired? I guess if they were recalls they would, but clearly they are not actual recalls.

What was the issue with the handbrake drum flange?

The Sonic wheel carrier looks the business! I like the way that is attaches only to the rear crossmember, and not the body. I presume that the gas strut holds it open/closed. Can it phsyically be locked (ie padlock type locked) in the shut position to prevent the tailgate being opened?

Thanks for all your help and advice! If I do buy the vehicle (which looks likely at the moment provide Mr Bank Manager doesn't object) I will post some pics in due course.

21st Jun 2010 3:46pm

alantd

Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 1513

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

You don't need to worry about any of the recalls. If you take it to a LR dealer, they will check all the recalls anyway.

The sump has a chunk out of it (to stop it hitting the diff case), the handbrake was a leaking transfer box seal that rendered the brake less efficient (cue sarcastic remarks about how rubbish they are anyway), the engine gets re-mapped (to address loss of power). Those are the recall items but LR will flag those to you automatically.

The additional one to check are whether it is still running the original vac pump. If so, expect it to fail at some stage - it doesn't stop the vehicle but makes a mess.

Some Defenders have had issues with gearboxes and there was an inherent weakness in the original clutch. That said, mine is still going and that's an '07. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
+ New Defender 110 First Edition

21st Jun 2010 4:13pm

bob neville

Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Marbella
Posts: 3248

blackwolf wrote:
The Sonic wheel carrier looks the business! I like the way that is attaches only to the rear crossmember, and not the body. I presume that the gas strut holds it open/closed. Can it phsyically be locked (ie padlock type locked) in the shut position to prevent the tailgate being opened?

The strut holds the carrier open and helps with opening - Defender wheels/tyres are heavy.

The carrier can be locked with a padlock.

Bob

21st Jun 2010 4:15pm

Sonic3d

Member Since: 28 Jan 2008
Location: Ross on Wye
Posts: 1505

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Stornoway Grey

Hi Bob where were you this weekend?? we had a fridge full of cold cider at the show with your name on it

21st Jun 2010 8:04pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17381

Is there a way to tell an original vac pump from a later (double seal?) pump - other than the former spewing oil under the bonnet?

22nd Jun 2010 10:00am

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

B/W The latest one i had fitted was number 30 G 09 written on the pump that was in September 09 hope this helps

NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY

22nd Jun 2010 10:24am

bob neville

Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Marbella
Posts: 3248

Sonic3d wrote:
Hi Bob where were you this weekend?? we had a fridge full of cold cider at the show with your name on it

Stuck in the garden under a fridge full of cold cider with my name on it

Bob

22nd Jun 2010 11:16am

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5035

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

There were a few other recalls.

One that springs to mind is the brake line and heat shield and another service action propshaft grease nipples Mike

22nd Jun 2010 4:14pm

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