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jomara



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Correct Steve, bit of a bummer!!! Crying or Very sad 2014 110 2.2TDCi XS Station wagon
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borderterrier



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what about fitting a 2014 10AS box?
Post #342149 1st Jul 2014 9:25pm
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Buccaneer



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custom90steve wrote:
That's a shame they don't work. Sad
I wish there was all in one keys that had a better design than those currently available.
I.e. A more square design would be much much more appealing to me and IMO suits the Defender better.


I got one of these (see below) from Remotekey.co.uk for my 50th Defender

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Fifth Horseman



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custom90steve wrote:
It seems then the new fobs will only work on a Defender which came with the new style fobs from the factory. Previous to that it won't work.


These fobs don't transmit on a single frequency unlike the old ones - the receiver of the alarm unit will be a significantly different design.



Incidentally from some entries on Topix it seems that the alarm on the MY'15 defender may have an active antenna unlike the old 'bit of string'.
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bell-auto-services



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
As you have found the new plip does not work with the old unit,, i have a large stash of the new style plipsin stock ready for a project im working on to try and apply them to the older models that do not have the correct reciver in them.

Hopefully i can get back on to the project early next year and build a conversion.

Pete
Post #371990 16th Nov 2014 2:56pm
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K9F



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Buccaneer wrote:
I got one of these (see below) from Remotekey.co.uk for my 50th Defender



custom90steve wrote:
I like these ( key on the right)

Click image to enlarge
Which is a Nissan Navara key.


Why do you like it Steve? Convenience perhaps?

By combining your key and 10as fob into one convenient unit you are effectively removing a potential security layer on your Defender. The 10as fob should in theory never be kept on the same keyring as your key. Lose one or the other your Defender still has a layer left, lose the combined unit and it's self explanatory. The most basic principles of security are quite often overlooked for convenience. With the increase reported in burglaries and the associated theft of keys why make it easier for them? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #371991 16th Nov 2014 3:03pm
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Fifth Horseman



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^^^ also try entering the EKA with the combined plip/key DAMHIK Embarassed
Post #372004 16th Nov 2014 4:41pm
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Macpaul



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Ian at IRB provided me with a new all-in-one plip/key for my 2013 Puma a few months ago.

Much easier than fiddling with different bits. 2003 Td5 110 Hardtop
Now a 2013 110 USW too.
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K9F



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Macpaul wrote:
Much easier than fiddling with different bits.


Whistle

As stated convenience......

Easier for any toe rag that may get their greasy mits on your key too. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #372029 16th Nov 2014 6:28pm
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custom90



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Not too worried about my keys as they have their own security in the K9 form. Twisted Evil
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Macpaul



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I must be missing something.

Why is a key on a ring with the plipper more secure than a combined unit? 2003 Td5 110 Hardtop
Now a 2013 110 USW too.
Post #372072 16th Nov 2014 9:08pm
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K9F



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It's not! The 10as fob should be kept seperate from the key! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #372074 16th Nov 2014 9:13pm
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Macpaul



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Loire Blue
Oh I see!

Has anyone, in the history of motoring, kept them apart?

It's never even been an option on any other car I've had.

It's hard enough finding the key when I want to go out, never mind two things. Confused 2003 Td5 110 Hardtop
Now a 2013 110 USW too.
Post #372077 16th Nov 2014 9:25pm
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K9F



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Down to personal choice and/or convenience dependant on opinion! Personally with all the stolen statistics and the fact it costs absolutely nothing to take advantage of the extra 'layer' supplied with a Defender and the seperate fob my choice too was made to keep the two apart, the fob being on a lanyard.
I too considered a combined key/fob but binned it as a bad idea! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #372080 16th Nov 2014 9:34pm
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