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| womble Member Since: 27 Jan 2012 Location: south east Posts: 272  
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morning all.
got a couple of optima batteries and want to put them both under passenger seat but can only get 1 there due to height of batteries, has anyone got an optima yellowtop that they coulmeasure for me as mine are not standard shape and therefore may be a bit higher than normal.please include the battery terninals in height, thanks in advance  |
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10th Aug 2013 5:13am |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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That's why most of us with twin battery set ups have odyssey's
Height of Yellow top 237.62mm to top of terminal http://d26maze4pb6to3.cloudfront.net/4713/..._Sheet.pdf |
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10th Aug 2013 6:24am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 
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Steve, all,
Now that we are on this subject, after 5 years I am planning to replace my original LR (Varta) battery this fall when the truck is due for its maintenance. Will ask Autobritt to do this. Which battery should I go for, keeping just the single battery set up? (I have no real power guzzling accessories). I have read a lot of good about Odyssey, but want to make sure that 1. it is a sufficiently powerful version, and 2. it is a direct fit, so LxWXH are withing the standard limits. Would this be the Odyssey PC 1350 then? Or another version better? Tks, Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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10th Aug 2013 7:52am |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5741 
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This has the dimensions for you
http://www.optimabattery.co.uk/images/ryellowopdata.gif http://www.optimabattery.co.uk/images/ryellowopdata.gif So should be 238 or 195 or 191 mm, depending on model. But you can lay them on their side if that makes the space easier. Andy |
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10th Aug 2013 8:39am |
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| MichaelHead Member Since: 16 Jul 2012 Location: Bucks Posts: 116 
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Ericvv replace with genuine mines 7 yrs old still going strong most other batteries only offer 4yr warranty
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10th Aug 2013 9:11am |
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| womble Member Since: 27 Jan 2012 Location: south east Posts: 272
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bpman,yhanks maybe oddyseys fit better but i was given these two optimas (bit of a result to say the least )and so dont want to go out and spend 3-400 on new ones,ythere must be a way of fitting them
landy man thanks for the link mine are the ones on there with the offset cells,maybe that is the problem, cheers guys |
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10th Aug 2013 10:16am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Well, our original Vartas don't even offer 4 years warranty of course, but while I know that I do mostly relatively short distances (around 10km), I have noticed that when I turn on the contact without the engine running, my Speaker LED headlamps are flickering when then turned on with battery power alone. That must mean that the voltage at rest is under 12V, so thought that the original Varta starts tp show some signs of weakness..... Don't have to do anything in a rush however, because I have the famous plug 12S installed, which allows me to easily connect a Ctek charger for topping battery up without even having to open the door. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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10th Aug 2013 11:18am |
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| Landlord Member Since: 27 Oct 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 582  
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The twin Odyssey will fit or twin Optima's will fit. I currently have a red top and a yellow top with no problems
But prefer the Odyssey setup. 2007 TD5 90 Hard Top |
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10th Aug 2013 8:50pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Twin Optima yellow tops used to be fitted in the red 110. Now running twin Odyssey 1700's. A tight fit but doable.
Black 110 running on twin Odyssey 1500's reasonable amount of space. Our now ex Disco 2 was Odyssey 1500 White 90 still on standard LR battery. When time comes to change it will be Odyssey in there as well. You could say I prefer Odyssey over other makes 
Brendan |
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11th Aug 2013 2:45pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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As to Odyssey, for a single battery replacement set-up, would the PC1350 not be the best choice?
Seems more powerful at nominal capacity 95Ah than the PC1500 and PC1700 which are both 68Ah. Also at 190 mm height the PC1350 is marginally lower than those other two. No doubt the Odyssey PC1350 would be more expensive than a new standard LR (i.e. Varta 90Ah) battery, so would the extra money be worth it? Below is link where I got those Odyssey details. http://www.odysseybattery.com/battspecs.html You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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11th Aug 2013 4:04pm |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3786  
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I have a C Tek charger & am aware of the "plug" system available with these units. However, being new to Defenders, I'm not aware of the "famous 12s plug" to which you refer, or where it would be fitted etc on a defender. So, could you please explain, or have images of it etc? Thanks, Pickles. |
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11th Aug 2013 10:25pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443 
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I think the above poster is refering to having a 12S socket fitted at the rear, we use them here to provide extra electrics to caravans(usually) The standard 12N socket has 7 pins which are the standard towing trailer socket enabling the trailer running lights, indicators, fog light and brake lights. The 12S, also with 7 pins though in a different configuration, has at least one permanent live which is where the connection for the c-tek is connected to, earth pins, reversing light feed, a heavier amperage power feed with the engine running sorted with a smart relay which if you're a tin tenter provides power for the 12v part of the caravan fridge and can charge onboard batteries. This is why you'll see two trailer electric sockets at the back of cars with tow bars. There is a move towards a 13pin single socket to help simplify things plus they have a locking mechanism to reduce the risk of the plugs pulling out whilst travelling. Hope that helps explain things.
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11th Aug 2013 11:26pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Pickles, it is all explained here...
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic20342.html?highlight=ctek You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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12th Aug 2013 2:02am |
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| BigWheels Member Since: 21 Mar 2010 Location: Somerset Posts: 1405 
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CTEKs have a gadget so you can charge through a "hot" accessory socket.
As the OE one is "cold" i.e. turned off when the ignition is switched off, I've had a couple "hot" ones fitted & use the charger that way. Better on a wet day. Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender |
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13th Aug 2013 10:27pm |
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