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bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1920 |
Hi, there are no laws or British standards to my knowledge with regards to the termination of a kitchen fan exhaust in a domestic premise (house), a cooker hood extractor fan on the other hand has implications due to odurs etc but still does not contravene any building regs etc.
The boiler will have many laws and regulations to adhere to let me know if you require the ins and outs of this. Hope it helps 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8 2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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1st May 2014 5:21pm |
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Diablo Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 335 |
No direct experience, but neighbourly disputes are dreadful things to get involved in. Legally, I imagine that there's nothing wrong with it as long as it isn't a nuisance - as you said.
I'd try and get some sort of compromise agreed with them though - pointing out any relevant issues, such as difficulties in routing. Whilst they sound somewhat abrasive, it would be better to placate them. |
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1st May 2014 5:26pm |
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What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952 |
I have done a LOT of DIY work over the years, and I can think of no laws that permit you from doing what you've said. Neighbours can be complete - I know, I have one! Just ALWAYS keep to the letter of the law, and they'll just be annoying . Just bear in mind though that extractor fans also expel voices. A row with the wife can be heard fairly clearly on the extract side of a fan. Now left.
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1st May 2014 5:30pm |
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grumpy old git Member Since: 16 Nov 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 153 |
No, there's no Building Regulations that prohibit extractors going across boundaries, on most of the high volume estates they're all like that though necessity due to site layouts. We get a few complaints about the pluming from condensing boilers as well but there's nothing specific to prevent that either.
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1st May 2014 5:32pm |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
As Bear says, no specific rules about kitchen extracts but there are laws about 'things' escaping from your property - water, effluent, etc - that could possibly be invoked. It would require your neighbour to complain, probably to environmental health in the first instance, and then depend on their view as to whether it went any further. As your neighbour has clearly already taken exception, it seems likely that she will the very first time that the smell of your curry or whatever drifts over her garden though.
Neighbour disputes are never pleasant, unfortunately. You either say sod'em and deal with the consequences if they come or try and accommodate them. The only problem with the latter is that trying to accommodate the blatantly unreasonable is nigh on impossible. It might be worth talking with the local environmental health and get their view to try and pre-empt future problems? Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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1st May 2014 5:37pm |
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barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1424 |
Speak to your local council building control- Just noticed you have As long as it is as you describe, and you only use your kitchen for personal use (not for financial gain) there is no reason why you cannot vent in either location. By moving it as you proposed, it is for there consideration. It is more than I would do now. They are jumping to all sorts of conclusions- fear of the unknown. As regards devaluing there property
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1st May 2014 8:31pm |
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Smilesapart Member Since: 28 Sep 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 735 |
Well as an Estate Agent, I can assure you it will not de-value their property. As someone who also develops property I can also assure you that thousands of properties across the land have not only kitchen extractors, but also boilers venting towards neighbouring properties usually down the side passage between properties. They do all need to vent above the head height of anyone walking past though.
Your neighbours are being ridiculous and unreasonable and clearly are using you to vent some completely different frustration going on in there lives - probably their miserable marriage or something. I'd leave the vent just where it is now and not go to all the cost of venting through the flat roof. Tell them it is within the law and if they don't like it that's just too bad. They are probably just jealous of you, your life and your Defender. They need to get a life. Ignore them. |
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1st May 2014 9:06pm |
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eutek Member Since: 03 Mar 2009 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 586 |
Thanks for all the responses.
We've decided to reroute the duct through the roof, to placate the neighbours. It is harder to keep that sealed against the rain etc (I've been told) but hey... all in the spirit of good relations. The engineer who put in the boiler (Viessman - it is supposed to be quite good) was quite careful, as a matter of fact he discovered that the original boiler was installed incorrectly (long story - many gas leaks accelerated our whole kitchen/boiler move). thanks again to everyone for the advice! |
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1st May 2014 9:11pm |
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ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1788 |
Keep it where it is, but add a decent carbon filter (as you would fit for a re circulation installation) so there will be little or no smells emanating from your kitchen.
Bear in mind the smell from a BBQ in the garden, let alone smoke etc, or even the smell through an open kitchen window! Personally I'd avoid putting anything through a flat roof, asking for trouble! |
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1st May 2014 9:11pm |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20466 |
I can't see any issue so I wouldn't worry.
The lot living opposite to us tried last year to cut off my living and close our business too. And they are related! Ex related now as far as I am concerned. Ignorance is bliss IMO but that does depend on if they can get anything on you legally or not. As mentioned above it was a boiler outlet there could indeed be implications but for a simple vent it should be fine. |
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1st May 2014 9:14pm |
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Smilesapart Member Since: 28 Sep 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 735 |
Ditto - do not put a hole in the flat roof. You'll always have leaks
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1st May 2014 9:15pm |
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eutek Member Since: 03 Mar 2009 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 586 |
These neighbours are something else... just two doors down from us, we have the "Commander of the Neighbourhood Watch", as he introduced himself. ("We run a tight ship around here...")
He told that I had to move my wife's car right away, as they have a no-parking agreement on this side of the street. Explained we're moving, unloading - I'll move it as soon as we can. Came back again and pestered me... so I moved it. A week later, during my 3-year old daughter's birthday party, he kept coming around to moan about the cars blocking the bus, being on the street etc. It was a Sunday, so the bus ran once an hour... and it got by w/o issues. Don't know what bus he was watching. Same day IKEA made a huge delivery (kitchen), so they had to park somewhere... and of course The Commander popped by again. I told him to mind his business, in a less polite way. I spoke with the Council about this "agreement", they knew nothing about it and referred me to the Roads & Highways people, who again ensured me that as long as we weren't breaking any rules (no double-yellow lines, no explicit "no parking" etc) that he was talking out of his arse. Next time he comes by Mrs. Eutek is going to have a less-than-quiet word with him. Figures... before we moved here, we wanted this type of neighbourhood. Be careful what you wish for I guess. |
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1st May 2014 9:23pm |
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jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
You were good enough to offer to relocate it, if they want to get arsey I'd be inclined to leave it were it is,otherwise they'll be moaning at everything you do,from washing your car to pegging out the washing. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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1st May 2014 9:27pm |
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gvw Member Since: 28 Aug 2012 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 16 |
+1 |
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1st May 2014 9:40pm |
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