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austen



Member Since: 10 Mar 2008
Location: Sydney
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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
clicking from rear
Whenever I start off either forward or backwards, I can hear a click coming from the rear. I cannot find anything loose, but if I poke my fingers into the brake calipers and move the pads I can hear a similar sound. Has anyone any ideas on this?

If it is brake pads, the dealer will just say they need replacing, but the sound has been there from about the first 6 months of ownership.

Austen. Rover 12 1935
Rover 20 1940
Rover 100 1960
Defender TDC1 2008
FL2 TD4 2008
Post #27300 18th Mar 2010 3:24am
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willy eckerslike



Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green
Have you checked skippy the bush Kangaroo isn't hiding in the back, didn't he used to talk with a series of clicks.......................or was that flipper Confused Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
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Post #27310 18th Mar 2010 7:31am
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K9F



Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Definately Skippy......

Confession time..... Did anyone ever find Kiki the frog from Hector's House as attractive as I did? Rolling with laughter If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #27315 18th Mar 2010 8:03am
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austen



Member Since: 10 Mar 2008
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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Definitely not a kangaroo. When you run into one it invariably comes in through the windscreen. I would have remembered that.

Austen. Rover 12 1935
Rover 20 1940
Rover 100 1960
Defender TDC1 2008
FL2 TD4 2008
Post #27411 18th Mar 2010 10:05pm
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quigley



Member Since: 20 Oct 2009
Location: Kilkivan
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Australia 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
What mileage have you done?
If the A frame ball joint has movement in it, the diff will rotate slightly as forward or rearward load is taken up, giving a clicking from the ball joint. The joint should not be a problem at low mileage but will deteriorate as water and rubbish damage it. It should have a grease nipple and it would then last a lot longer, and you can fit one.
Try prising the A frame at the ball joint with a tyre lever or such and see if there is any movement. If it's sound you will have to look at a dozen other possibilities.
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austen



Member Since: 10 Mar 2008
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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Just went out and tried for movement in the A frame. Seems tight, although it is hard to get purchase on all angles.

Tested for brake pad movement but unable to duplicate the sound I thought I heard earlier. Took the wheel off but no sound.

It is noticable also after stopping on a incline and applying the handbrake. The roll foward after releasing the footbrake produces the click.

Def is 35,000kms old. I know I can take it to the dealer, but they can never locate issues such as this.

Austen. Rover 12 1935
Rover 20 1940
Rover 100 1960
Defender TDC1 2008
FL2 TD4 2008
Post #27590 21st Mar 2010 7:52am
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sasha2001



Member Since: 02 Jan 2009
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Russia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Tonga Green
handbrake?
there are a few threads on this
Post #27591 21st Mar 2010 7:56am
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alantd



Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Could it be the A frame on your rear suspension? There have been 2 service notifications about this:

Publication No.: 204-Q055
Model: Defender
Model Year: 2009
VIN Range: LD771715 – LD772545
Date of Issue: 03 February 2009
Subject: ‘A’ Frame Suspension Arm
Expiry Date: 28 February 2011

In plant quality inspections have determined that on a number of 2009MY Defender vehicles, the
'A' frame top link arm bushes at the chassis bracket location end of the arm can rotate due to a
potential ovality/oversize of the bore in which the bush is installed.
Customers may experience vibration and a noise likely to be a whine.

and

Publication No. 501-Q036v2
Model Defender 90, 110, 130
Model Year 2007MY
VIN Range LD736064 to LD752152
Date of Issue: 26 February 2009
Subject 'A' Frame Chassis Brackets
Expiry Date 28 February 2010

A number of 2007MY Defender vehicles may have a durability concern relating to a
manufacturing change to the 'A' frame chassis brackets. If a vehicle is not repaired, the long
term durability of the 'A' frame bracket is not assured and failure of the bracket will result in a
degree of rear axle steering and body swaying and the vehicle may not respond as the driver
intended.

Neither of them mention a clicking but it might be worth checking with the dealer than these service bulletins don't apply (it is highly unlikely that they do but always worth checking). What makes me laugh is that in the fix for the second one they weld on a strengthener and warn "WARNING - HOT WAX MAY DRIP FROM THE CHASSIS" Rolling with laughter One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Post #27592 21st Mar 2010 8:08am
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austen



Member Since: 10 Mar 2008
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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Mine is a 2008 with the welded, as opposed to bolted A links. The welding looks fine and appears to have the added patch. However it could quite well be the bushes.

I dont think it is coming from the handbrake, although I have issues with this as I have run out of thread on the outer cable. The dragging is back now that the dealer has changed the clutch. I had the brake set up perfectly and asked them not to touch the adjustment, but a bit hard to avoid I suppose when changing the clutch.

Austen. Rover 12 1935
Rover 20 1940
Rover 100 1960
Defender TDC1 2008
FL2 TD4 2008
Post #27605 21st Mar 2010 1:59pm
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dasha



Member Since: 15 Aug 2007
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Australia 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
clicking noise from diff
I had the same noise from my 05 defender from new , it was the pinion flange there was a LR tech bulletin sent out which i can't find anthow the fix was to remove the pinion flange loctite the splines to stop any movement no more clicking noise. hope this helps
Post #27803 23rd Mar 2010 9:50am
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austen



Member Since: 10 Mar 2008
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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Yes, that could well be the sound. Should I dismantle and check or leave it to the dealer?

Thanks,
Austen. Rover 12 1935
Rover 20 1940
Rover 100 1960
Defender TDC1 2008
FL2 TD4 2008
Post #27968 25th Mar 2010 12:39am
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quigley



Member Since: 20 Oct 2009
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Australia 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Sounds as though you still haven't located your problem.
The short cut is to get the vehicle over a pit. You can then have it moved back and forward while you are safely under it and able to observe and listen for the noise. That would let you narrow it down to the location of the source. That would eliminate a lot of potential problem areas.
If you can't narrow it down over a pit you will have to roll around under there on your back, eliminating possibilities.
I would start with the front and rear tailshafts. Chock your wheels so the car can't roll on you. Take it out of gear and handbrake off. Push pull and lever each of the universal joints and the flanges into the diffs and transfer case. Look for movement. There will be some rotational movement to each shaft so rock them back and forth to see if the click occurs as the pre loads take up. The tail shafts each have a sliding section which is not greased on my Puma. See if there is excessive movement in the shaft at that section.
Let's know how it goes and if no joy there's plenty more to look at.
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AndrewS



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
Propshaft bolts Question or Prop UJ 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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