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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816   
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I have noticed this already a couple of years ago, but it is getting worse now. Bit of rust has developed around one of the painted rivnuts in the panel at the left of the rear door.
How do I solve this? Is this something that my dealer's bodyshop can take care of ? (they are pretty good) Can this be solved without having to drill the rivnut out? Tks, Eric  Click image to enlarge You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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23rd Mar 2014 5:16pm |
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| Joe the Plumber Member Since: 18 Dec 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 907 
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You can clean the rust off with this:
http://www.bilthamber.com/corrosion-treatments/deox-gel and then touch up the paint. |
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23rd Mar 2014 5:31pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Thanks Joe, but doubt Bilthamber is available here. And to order it from their site means fairly prohibitive shipping costs to Switzerland, they would be a multiple of the product cost...
Other ideas/suggestions? Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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23rd Mar 2014 6:10pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 
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Can you get ACF50, Eric? If so, spray it liberally on the rivet and up underneath the full length of the capping(s). It appears that the capping undersides aren't painted, so the rust you're seeing is almost certainly indicative of more that's hidden. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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23rd Mar 2014 6:14pm |
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| VeeTee Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1512 
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Eric, you can ask your pharmacist for some oxalic acid. Make a 10% solution and treat the rust with it. Flush with a lot of water and touch up with paint.
(if your pharamicist won't sell it to you, alternatively you can use teak cleaning solution - the main ingredient is oxalic acid). This is safe for the paint and removes the rust and rust stains. We used this a lot on cars which had parked for several days in the close vicinity of railway stations and thus got a lot of rust stains from the overhead wires. Cheers, Vincent 1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold) 1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold) 1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold) 1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold) 2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold) 2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold) MySite |
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23rd Mar 2014 6:22pm |
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| VeeTee Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1512
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To keep the water out of the gap between body and cappings, I treated the gap with black sealant. Click image to enlarge Cheers, Vincent 1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold) 1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold) 1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold) 1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold) 2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold) 2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold) MySite |
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23rd Mar 2014 6:33pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Thanks all suggestions. First thing I will do is show it to the dealer. The truck is now 5 1/2 years old, so there still is the factory corrosion warranty in place until September, albeit I do know that this warranty in year 4 thru 6 is limited to "perforating rust" only.
What is the definition of perforating rust by the way? Think I can make a point that this here is not surface rust, but rust which possibly has started from inside that panel and now is creeping outside via that pop rivet.... So perforating maybe???? Still worth the effort to ask I think. Will kepos, Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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23rd Mar 2014 6:36pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Vincent, I will try the dealer to take off the capping with that pop rivet to see if this can be called "perforating rust" which has started from the inside after water ingress.... Euh, by the way, your Swiss flag there is not the correct format.  Believe we discussed that already at length earlier. 
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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23rd Mar 2014 6:40pm |
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| VeeTee Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1512
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^^ Eric, about the flag - yes, we discussed that before. But I am reluctant to take of the other five flag stickers to adjust to an even spacing. So for now, I have to live with this shame...
  Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold) 1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold) 1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold) 1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold) 2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold) 2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold) MySite |
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23rd Mar 2014 6:53pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3641 
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#2 for the ACF50 approach, spray up under the cappings, run it behind the rear corner cappings and wipe it around the rivet repeat annually DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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23rd Mar 2014 8:12pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 
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spray under all cappings with waxoyl , also stops the rust creeping out where caps are welded
blow lots up under the caps and wipe off paint work if you can get a proper air powered gun to do it |
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23rd Mar 2014 8:26pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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OK, I have heard so much praise about this ACF-50 on here that I decided to give it a go. Found a UK based ebay seller who will ship to Switzerland. So bought the below, hope it is the right stuff.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ACF-50-Anti-Corr...5d4a63e9a7 You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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23rd Mar 2014 8:59pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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people who use acf50 seem to keep reapplying it
waxoyled twice in 7 years and as new don't get me wrong I have got some acf50 but looking at some of the corrosion posts on forum on much later cars then mine , I've always used waxoyl or supertrol and mine ( luckily ) has no corrosion what so ever ok it's no good if you want to paint over after ,but I prefer prevention rather then cure |
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23rd Mar 2014 9:03pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Well, we will first see what my dealer says about it, hopefully they will cover it under the still valid "perforating rust" warranty. If LR warranty do not accept, I will ask them still a quote to take off the capping and sort the issue out.
If that quote would be crazy here in Geneva, then my truck will go in May back to a first class Swiss body shop near Basel for re-Dinitrolling, and eventually I will ask them to check this all out and take that capping off and repair, repaint. Those guys are first class I know, and possibly a bit more reasonably priced than here in Geneva wonderland..... In the meantime I would try out this ACF-50 product on it then. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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23rd Mar 2014 9:25pm |
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