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| ellebarto Member Since: 05 Oct 2012 Location: Manchester Posts: 334   
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After driving in the Peaks the other weekend and getting the usual abuse from walkers and horse riders I had some footage of a couple of numpties I thought I’d share. In fact I was so irritated by the attitudes of the other lane users in comparison to our own I thought it was about time I showed the other side of the coin.
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15th Dec 2013 7:22pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6092 
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To me it looked like you waited, the riders got their animals under control, you drove past slowly, the front rider nodded and the rear rider asked how many vehs there were?
Am I missing something  |
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15th Dec 2013 7:45pm |
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| ellebarto Member Since: 05 Oct 2012 Location: Manchester Posts: 334
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In a nutshell.
Your missing the point. It was a demo of how I believe most 4x4 drivers operate as opposed to the popular myth put forward by the Peaks anti brigade. Maybe a slight swipe at not controlling a potentially dangerous beast sprinkled in but only slight! Check out my YouTube channel for green laning and Land Rover "how to" videos. |
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15th Dec 2013 7:50pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20342
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At the end of the day if you know you and the rest of the drivers can and do drive with in the law and with all due consideration there is nothing they can ever do. Filming your laneing is even better because if ever you get accused of anything you can show it, even more so if it's dated and timed to prove your innocence.
Frankly more than it being 4x4 hating frankly I think you'll find some out there will be put out if anyone at all comes around the corner simply because it puts them and there progress out. They might not even other riders unless they know them. 
Equally riders acting as if vehicles are intimidating to them I highly doubt they would consider they may be intimidating to walkers in an equal manner. Also unless their horses are suitably trained, ready and safe to go out in public they shouldn't do. If our LR's aren't safe we are not allowed to drive them for obvious reason, the same should apply to riders however under common sense which sadly is often lacking. Never had any trouble with riders myself but I know if I would ever it would be teenage girls that would be the ones. End of the day there should be no reason for anyone to complain or be any issue providing everyone behaves themselves. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸ðŸ›¢ï¸âš™ï¸ðŸ§°ðŸ’ª |
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15th Dec 2013 7:55pm |
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| me@td5.org Member Since: 16 Jan 2011 Location: Warwick Posts: 856 
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If it's about showing how considerate you are why is the thread title "Annoying Horse Riders..." which implies you either find them annoying or are trying to annoy them. Either way it's not an impartial view.
To be fair to those giving negative feedback on YouTube, many of your videos deliberately highlight the incompetence of your companions for comedy effect, such as the Disco driver who tipped over his car twice in one outing.. www.td5.org |
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15th Dec 2013 8:03pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20342
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Some of the above points are valid too, we really shouldn't condemn others despite their behaviour and try not to stereotype.
If we do they will retaliate and of course stereotype us too. There are still despite our best efforts idiots out there those that illegally off road their 4x4's still and cause us the issues we are accused of. That and motorcycle users which also can be just as bad for causing issues for genuine users. Pity is we are all generalised the same as using motor vehicles, from what I've seen in most instances though where motor vehicles have been banned with a TRO especially a permanent one. The Lane often becomes so overgrown it's impassable to anyone because no one cuts it and vehicles don't keep it clear, so what that achieves I do not know except loosing us all some lovely lanes. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
🇬🇧ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸ðŸ›¢ï¸âš™ï¸ðŸ§°ðŸ’ª |
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15th Dec 2013 8:31pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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The horse riders gave way to you?
Yes one of the riders was not completely 100% in full control of the horse 100% of the time. So it took a few moments for them to get it under control? It might well be that particular horse has had an unpleasant experience with vehicles or that the rider was not 100% competent in riding a horse. However horses are animals with their own brains/feelings. Yes horse riders do have to learn just like LEARNER DRIVERS. How often have you seen learner drivers let alone drivers with a full licence not 100% in control of their inanimate vehicle? You state that some of your videos attract anti 4x4 comments! However your comments could be construed as anti horse rider! Even your title to this thread could be construed as anti horse rider! It could well be argued that you should have driven forward slightly to where the verge was wide, stopped and SWITCHED OFF the engines and allowed the horses to pass by SAFELY stationary and quiet vehicles on a wide verge. Those horse riders had a perfectly LEGAL right to be on that road. The fact that the rider asked how many vehicles were in the group was a PERFECTLY SENSIBLE QUESTION! They do not want to set off and have tail end charlie charging up the road catching up with the rest of the group, especially in a narrow section of the road! The sooner ALL legal road users RESPECT other road users the better! The sooner people think twice about what videos and comments they put up on utube the better. Brendan Brendan |
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15th Dec 2013 8:47pm |
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| martinfiattech Member Since: 13 Nov 2013 Location: leicester Posts: 422 
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Hiya
Had the same problem years ago when I used to work on farm equipment they dident like seeing a cavalier wading thru muddy ruts, even when you parked up switched off got out and walked up to them and asked them to walk on thru as the old cav sri was a bit loud. One bloke gave me a nice look of his shot gun for my cheek, good bit was when he got home it was me the cavalier and welder waiting to do the mot repairs on his landrover !! put 20 quid on the bill to |
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15th Dec 2013 9:01pm |
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| Romadog Member Since: 07 Jul 2011 Location: Powys Posts: 1749 |
Well like anyone else I watched the video with interest first then read the comments. I was glad to see the above as it saves me having to write more than to say that I agree with them. I watched it with my girlfriend, who rides, and was just downloading a video she took of her and friends today when a BMW came towards them at speed without slowing.
The rear horse moved into the track and in front of the other to protect it as it was obviously nervous of the noisy diesel vehicle. This is a tactic that helps the horses to get used to the situation. The same reason why some ride two abreast on the road, as well as to make sure drivers pass slowly. Why did you feel that you had right of way over them ? More respect of eachother is needed. |
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15th Dec 2013 9:31pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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I'm not really sure what the issue is. Animals are inherently unpredictable and equines are sometimes not controllable robot fashion. The coloured horse appeared not to want to face your vehicle but this could have been due to to it taking exception due number of sensory inputs, sight, hearing or smell or a combination - or perhaps it took exception to a sheep, plastic bag or waving bush unseen by you - or as has been mentioned perhaps the horse, or rider, has had a bad experience with vehicles in one shape or another the past.
Looked like the rear rider moved forward to shield her companion and her potentially dangerous beast from your potentially dangerous 4x4, seems sensible to me. We are a small Island with a limited and shrinking amount of countryside yet more and more people who want to be out in it. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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15th Dec 2013 9:35pm |
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| Cuthbert Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: Up North Posts: 1535 |
As a Defender owner (and horse rider) I'd suggest you have rather a lot to learn about other road users and their legal rights. Perhaps a few hours in the saddle might improve your own driving skills, general awareness and attitude towards others. As for your video - I'll leave it to the jury to draw their own conclusion. |
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15th Dec 2013 9:49pm |
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| GSD Member Since: 18 Dec 2012 Location: UK Posts: 38 |
"swipe at not controlling a potentially dangerous beast"!!! |
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15th Dec 2013 10:02pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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Having ridden loads in the past, I would always advocate the 'sail before steam' principle. I know what damage a horse can inflict on vehicle and I certainly wouldn't want one prancing onto my bonnet. Your vehicle is allegedly under your total control and a horse is a living being and as such unpredictable.
I think the thread title is stupid and inflammatory. I don't think you have done the cause of green laning any service at all. If green laning is to stand any chance of survival then all users need to stand together and acknowledge what every party can contribute. Barbara |
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15th Dec 2013 10:13pm |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897 
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My thoughts are that a lot of 'customised' 4x4s tend to look agressive to other byway users.
A 'showroom' standard looking vehicle doesn't.  |
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15th Dec 2013 10:14pm |
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