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RANGER1312

Member Since: 04 Feb 2018
Location: Fylde Coast
Posts: 125

Post MY02 rear door maintenance, modifications or upgrades?

Hi all,

I initially posted this on the maintenance and modifications section but surprisingly didn't have a single response from any of our members so figured that perhaps I put it in the wrong place and it may be better in the td5 section.

Keeping with my plan of action to see maintenance as an opportunity to replace / upgrade components a broken door latch and non functional 3rd brake light has meant I've had to strip the rear door.

I've replaced the wiring to the brake light and installed an Nakatanenga LED light from Brendan and ordered a new latch.

I've also sprayed the trim black (along with the other panels) due to showing it's age and have new clips / fasteners on order.

Door is in excellent condition with no rust and no cracks in it but the weight of the large wheel / tyre has always concerned me so am looking to install a swing away wheel carrier whilst the door is in bits.

Would members recommend installing a Nakatanenga door strut or would this be overkill with a swing away wheel carrier as I presume the strut helps with the weight of the wheel where the swing away wheel carrier alleviates this issue?

Are there any other maintenance jobs that you recommend be done or any parts checked before putting it all back together or are there any other upgrades / modifications that members have done which would be worth while doing at this stage?

Thanks

Nick

8th May 2019 5:36pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

The post '02 rear door is a pretty well sorted package. The only mod I can think of that would be worth doing whilst it's in bits would be to fit a time delay relay to the rear wiper.

When I rebuilt one for my old 90, I also fitted two large aluminium backing plates to the spare wheel carrier to stiffen up the mounting. If you're fitting a separate carrier though, that won't help you.

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I suspect that a separate carrier will also negate the need for a door gas strut. Darren

110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak

"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia

8th May 2019 6:27pm

RANGER1312

Member Since: 04 Feb 2018
Location: Fylde Coast
Posts: 125

Thanks Darren, I didn't know if the gas strut would still be needed with the swing away wheel carrier.

I've recently purchased a .99 relay for the front wipers, would the old one from the front work in the rear or do I need a different one?

8th May 2019 6:38pm

donmacn

Member Since: 06 Nov 2017
Location: Nth Scotland
Posts: 1848

Is the standard post-2002 door stay different or improved from earlier ones?

I only ask because I had a separate carrier on my door (Tdi) and the door would still swing shut on me. I think I should have fitted a Naka strut years ago. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...

8th May 2019 6:57pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

It is essentially the same design. When I fitted a post '02 door to my '92 90, I was pleasantly surprised that it bolted straight on. Darren

110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak

"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia

8th May 2019 7:00pm

RANGER1312

Member Since: 04 Feb 2018
Location: Fylde Coast
Posts: 125

I suppose the wheel carrier will take the weight off the door and make it easier to open and close where the strut will stop it closing on the kids when they're climbing in and out...

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8th May 2019 7:44pm

donmacn

Member Since: 06 Nov 2017
Location: Nth Scotland
Posts: 1848

Well, I think that proves my point!

I had a problem for years with my door closing on me, even with the wheel on a swing- away carrier. If the design is essentially the same, I don't think a carrier alone is guaranteed to make the difference.

For all the cost of the gas strut, I'd say it was definitely worth it. I couldn't believe how much of a difference it made. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...

8th May 2019 7:55pm

RANGER1312

Member Since: 04 Feb 2018
Location: Fylde Coast
Posts: 125

Thanks for the feedback donmacn, if it's worth fitting one then it makes sense to do it at this stage whilst everything is apart

8th May 2019 8:19pm

Oldowner

Member Since: 26 Dec 2018
Location: South west
Posts: 626

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Aintree Green

Pull the upper section of the window seal back and spray clear waxoyl in between it. My Puma door has began to rust badly from trapped water between seal and doorskin.

10th May 2019 5:25pm

4RF RDS

Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 943

2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green

I put a Puma door on my 99 MY 110 and it is great. I have a swing away carrier and a Nakatenenga upper door strut. It keeps the door open when needed in off road situations and also helps in closing the door. Also agree on putting rust inhibitor into the upper window seal. Don’t use a petroleum based product as it will swell and mess with the seal but its worth doing

2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

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11th May 2019 1:55am

RANGER1312

Member Since: 04 Feb 2018
Location: Fylde Coast
Posts: 125

Thanks guys, I'll get some waxoyl for the job

12th May 2019 2:58pm

Joe the Plumber

Member Since: 18 Dec 2013
Location: Midlands
Posts: 907

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HT Fuji White

Or, if you want to do it with a product that wasn't around in the 1960s and actually works, try here instead:

www.bilthamber.com

12th May 2019 5:07pm

Paul1275s

Member Since: 21 Apr 2019
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 80

I’ve just fitted a mantec wheel carrier to mine, a gas strut might assist with opening as there is quite a bit of friction within the mechanism of the mantec. I’m about to swap to a new door though as mine is proper fracked, new glass going in but it doesn’t have the wiring for the brake light so i’ll Try and run cables through the door frame. Will try and reuse the factory light though with an led bulb. 2003 Defender 110 TD5 SW
2003 Caterham 7
2006 Mini Cooper GP

13th May 2019 7:57am

RANGER1312

Member Since: 04 Feb 2018
Location: Fylde Coast
Posts: 125

Thanks Joe, I'll take a look at their website. Is there a particular product that you would recommend?

Paul that's similar to what mine is like although I fitted an actual LED unit rather than just LED bulb.

15th May 2019 6:15am

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