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ken



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Clarification from Martin Required
Please confirm the difference between:

Site Sponsor

And

Site Supporter

I know on D3 sponsors can’t comment on another Sponsors post if it’s about their ware’s (Might have changed now)
Is it different here or does a supporter not count under the same rules
Yes this question has been brought about by the CSK debate however there have been similar bashings over a period of time and its bringing the forum down a peg shame really
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It'd be a real shame if "advertisers" on this forum were given some sort of get out of jail free card that stops people leaving any kind of negative feedback. Businesses need to accept that advertising on a forum can be a double edged sword at times, the advertisers get direct access to a self selected pool of prospective customers and the customers get to leave feedback (good or bad).

The best way to avoid negative feedback is to make sure you do every job to the best of your ability and when/if you do make a mistake then do everything you can to put it right. Prospective customers will make their own judgement on how a particular company has handled the problem if it gets as far as being posted. The advantage of a forum like this is that both sides can put their point of view across, better that than only getting one side of the "discussion".

The only exception to this would be where one side or the other was being malicious or untruthful of course but that applies regardless of how much (if any) money one side has paid to advertise on this site.

From the "tone" of the OP it seems that you want advertisers to get a free ride and be beyond criticism, frankly if that were the case then the "critic" would simply post on another forum and possibly point out that they are posting there because this forum has a bias against consumers over advertisers. http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/
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I'm guessing the point is about one sponsor commenting on another's problems, as it could be seen as a conflict of interests, and not about comments from customers.

Cheers

Simon
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ken



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The point is I'd like it to be clear on this forum because its not

On D3 it was fun watching the battle of the Tuners Rolling with laughter

Supporter / Sponsor just muddies the water

No its not about a free ride and in this instance the OP is leaving feedback as they see it thats fine the supplier has responded thats fine however another supplier coming in and the position can become muddy
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Agree with Ken it ruins a very good forum. There's a lot of good guys on here. There is probably one or two who run very successful companies.

We should be able to give negative and positive statements.

But the attacks aren't cricket, that's not how you solve a problem but how you get in a fight. Land Rover drivers don't fight each other.
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Presuming this is aimed at me ?

To clarify, My initial post on the latest complaint about CSK was in response to another trader, Ibexman, who claimed it was posted in the wrong section (he has now changed his post) I was responding that, in my opinion, it was in the right section. My posts after that were in answer to CSK's posts directed at me.

If there is a rule where myself as a Sponsor is not allowed to post on a thread that a Supporter has posted on then I was not aware of it and will 'stand corrected' if that is the case
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ken



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Matt its not aimed at you at all

Its not aimed at any one its a question that I wish our site owner to answer

There are some great suppliers who share a passion on here and show / share impart knowlege to us all as well as some other chaps who know a thing or two as well Thumbs Up

Oh and have you paid Ibex his nifty yet ? Rolling with laughter
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Thank you Ken, my apologies for jumping to the wrong conclusion Bow down
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Still havent answered about the £50.00 thou Rolling with laughter
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Here you go :

http://www.justgiving.com/FCX

Perhaps Ibexman would like to follow suit ...
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Cant argue with that

Gulity that we havenot reached the target so perhaps tonites the nite Thumbs Up
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You are a top man Ken, thank you so much Bow down
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Go Beyond wrote:
Presuming this is aimed at me ?

To clarify, My initial post on the latest complaint about CSK was in response to another trader, Ibexman, who claimed it was posted in the wrong section (he has now changed his post) I was responding that, in my opinion, it was in the right section. My posts after that were in answer to CSK's posts directed at me.

If there is a rule where myself as a Sponsor is not allowed to post on a thread that a Supporter has posted on then I was not aware of it and will 'stand corrected' if that is the case

What did I say Matt enlighten me
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If there is a rule where myself as a Sponsor is not allowed to post on a thread that a Supporter has posted on then I was not aware of it and will 'stand corrected' if that is the case

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Go Beyond wrote:
Here you go :

http://www.justgiving.com/FCX

Perhaps Ibexman would like to follow suit ...

SORTED Thumbs Up
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