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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17348   
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Standard clutch should be quite adequate for a TD5 with a PSI Powerbox, is does sound as though you need a new one.
I know of a TD5 Disco2 which has been running a PSI Powerbox and standard clutch for 60k+ miles with no issues whatsoever. |
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12th Nov 2013 9:10am |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039  
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I was thinking the same but as there is many experience here with tuned td5's I just want to know it for sure.
It would be a pity replacing my clutch and then find out that a standard one isn't strong enough. How many HP/torque would a standard clutch hold? Roel 1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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12th Nov 2013 9:45am |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6090 
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Clutch on my 110 slips like
 when I boot it (tuned with VGT turbo and 1.2:2 t/box)
When I built it i had the wrong slave cylinder in it, so it was like having your foot resting on the clutch for the first 3000 miles of its life. then the fuel pressure regulator leaked, so covered it all in diesel (worth checking that on your one... the diesel doesn't take long to "burn off" once you fix the regulator) So mine needs doing too. I'd say if you have a high power tune, or hi load (as in, towing, big tyres, over geared etc) then the clutch needs to be in tip top condition. |
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12th Nov 2013 10:09am |
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| adafish Member Since: 30 Mar 2009 Location: atherstone Posts: 1381
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and do it ENGINE OUT....find that the easier way.. Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull..
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12th Nov 2013 10:38am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17348
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I have never heard of a TD5 clutch in good condition slipping, irrespective of power and/or load, and if it slips I would always take it as a sign that something was wrong.
With my Disco2 I have often towed up to 3.5 tonnes with no slippage. The day I towed 140 tonnes it was slipping a bit to get the load moving and there was a very hot clutch smell, but it was fine afterwards! If you had a seriously radical tune and greatly overloaded the clutch I would expect the DMF to fail first. There is I believe a small number of TD5s running around the 250bhp mark as far as I know on standard clutches. One of our 'in-forum' tuning gurus is probably best placed to answer this question. |
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12th Nov 2013 11:25am |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6090
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+1  |
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12th Nov 2013 1:22pm |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039
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Is it not possible like how I did it with my Camel Discovery, just move de gearbox 25cm backwards to get just enough space to change the clutch? Roel
1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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12th Nov 2013 2:40pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6090
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If you've got a decent trolley that will carry the 'box, then yes.
Removing the engine saves lying on your back for hours on end (enless you've got a ramp/pit) |
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12th Nov 2013 3:42pm |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039
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 I did it in a real workshop on a bridge from my parts supplier 
Byt if you work on the ground I think the most time you will be on your back anyway to loosen everything under the car. The time just to change the clutch and pressure plate is 30 minutes? Would you replace the DMF also? Or only if you see anything wrong? And what to look for with the DMF? Roel 1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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12th Nov 2013 7:33pm |
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| Sphere Member Since: 26 Apr 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 725 
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How much did you tow?? 140 tonnes! 
What did vosa say? |
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12th Nov 2013 7:46pm |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4785 
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I think you'll find he was moving one of his hobbies (not the caravan!) 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton |
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12th Nov 2013 7:55pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17348
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Actually it was only 124 tonnes, I checked. Dead class 47 diesel loco needed moving a short distance in a rail yard.
It was actually easier to move than you might think. |
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12th Nov 2013 10:04pm |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4785
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Are you up at newberry this weekend roger? 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton |
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12th Nov 2013 10:07pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17348
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Ha, thought it was you! Yes, Friday to Sunday.
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12th Nov 2013 10:21pm |
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