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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2415  
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Hi all!
hope alls well, Sadly been made redundant by my employer after 5 years service, I've since discovered the Welsh Government will pay up to £1500 for training for a new career for anyone made redundant within 6 months of redundancy , they will also pay £3000 to any employer that takes on the employee and train them up on the job. Ive been thinking of using this to train for an CPCS card for heavy plant operating such as a 360 tracked digger and the volvo articulated dumper trucks, I hear the pay is pretty good ranging between 10 and 20 per hour. That means lots of new bits for my defender and poss a brand new TDCI at that wage! Has anyone on here got any experience in this sector? Kenny 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) 2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold) 2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) |
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14th Sep 2013 7:19pm |
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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2415
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I was actually planning on using my redundancy to focus on Welsh Off Road Products properly but as the sole breadwinner of the house with my wife as a full time mother of my daughter its good to have a back up so I will be doing both and operating plant part time as the wages are so high it seems to cover my bills so I can plough everything back into company. 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)
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14th Sep 2013 8:26pm |
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| TD5_dan Member Since: 24 Feb 2012 Location: Essex Posts: 449 
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Fair dos mate, well hope it works out and there are some people with some advice in the sector. Seems to be lots of developments and building projects on the go again so wouldn't be surprised if work in heavy plant machinery is about. 2001 TD5 110 County Station Wagon - sold
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14th Sep 2013 8:31pm |
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| Wangers Member Since: 19 Jan 2013 Location: West London Posts: 265  
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Head for the railway maintenance companys (Balfour Beatty, bailey rail, babcock etc) as a) they require loads of staff to do the works, b) its not heavy on the workload, and c) once on the railway you;ll never be out of a job.
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14th Sep 2013 10:42pm |
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| Sockpuppet Member Since: 17 Sep 2011 Location: Leicester Posts: 479
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Give a think to HGV driving. its got me out of a few tight spots in the past.
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14th Sep 2013 10:48pm |
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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2415
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Hgv doesn't really pay much these days it seems in my area at least with more hoops to jump through and vosa on your ass!
I already have HGV, digi tach and CPC card if it comes to it! I'm going to find out more bout heavy plant Monday as well as railway work as there's £££££ to be made 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) 2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold) 2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) |
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14th Sep 2013 10:54pm |
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| barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1423 
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Heavy plant is worse than HGV
 Alot of employers will not touch you without any experience and you can't get experience without a ticket !!! The bureaucratic world we live leads to alot of  Hgv might be easier and allow alot of flexibleability with your working time. I have reverted back to it several times. I let all my cscs tickets lapse. I paid for them all myself and had over 9 categories. When the CSCS scheme replaced the CITB they moved the goal post somewhat. It is now based on an hours operated per annum, with a minimum per catorgary required to allow you to continue to opperate them. Good luck Kenny only piece of advice, follow your heart not the money, we spend alot of time at work |
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14th Sep 2013 11:48pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150 
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I would give HGV a miss. Its only useful as something to fall back on if you cannot find any other work. As a full time job it is soul-destroying. 2011 110 USW
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15th Sep 2013 8:00am |
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| noworries4x4 Member Since: 24 Dec 2010 Location: Newton Abbot Devon Posts: 1195 
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If you want to look at Tower Crane operating remote and cab there is tons of work out there and the stupid numpties on the agencys just smash our machines up on a daily basis, loads of cpcs company's do the training but no one will take you on its all agency work in construction these days. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.
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15th Sep 2013 8:34am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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There is only one decent Welsh Off Road product......and it is one of my favourites. 
Joking asides several of my mates went on the railways and dependant on your skill sets you can earn top dollar. For me the railways seem one of the better more stable suggestions yet perhaps? Good luck and all the best in your quest!  If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
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15th Sep 2013 9:29am |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
The railway is a good option depending on what you do. P/Way work, unless you get a job with Network Rail is ad hoc and is dependant on contracts etc. You will also need to get a PTS certificate before any company will touch you for working on the lineside, unless they put you through the course that is. Another option would be to get a start with one of the train operating companies (TOC), Arriva, FGW or Cross country run out of Cardiff. The best paid job on the railway for the working man is Train driver. Salaries range depending on TOC from £40,000- £65,000 for a basic 4 day week without overtime or Sunday working. The selection process is long and tough (psychometric testing amongst others) but it is worth it in the end. If you can't get in off the street into the drivers role, then consider getting a foot in the door by taking any job you can get, then applying internally for a better position. The railway is an institution and once in you may have a job for the rest of your career.
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15th Sep 2013 10:55am |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2216 
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Does this qualify ?
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15th Sep 2013 11:15am |
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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2415
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Haha Sheep jokes, I had to expect that fellas!
Some good advice given here cheers! I may well try the railways and utilities, Mate of mine works for Western Power and loves it!, on 40k already and only 2 years in. One thing to note is Im hard of hearing so crane driving might be out as they use walkie talkies! train driving might be doable as its all dashboard stuff. I didnt expect wages to be that high! Lot of responsibility though! I dont mind doing agency work as theres hellvua lot of big quarries and soil/sand suppliers round here. I might do some emailing and door knocking monday morning! As for the welsh off road, I have a line on new LED light bars from Poland which are rated to IP69k which is the highest rating you can get. So Im looking into that at the moment as well. 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) 2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold) 2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) |
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15th Sep 2013 3:37pm |
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| jollymuckshifter Member Since: 10 Dec 2011 Location: Chester le Street Posts: 120 
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My advice is to go for the ADT option.Its far easier to get a start on a site that has a fleet of trucks and you can follow other(more experienced)operators until you gain confidence.I never start newly trained 360 drivers as I cant afford to have trucks standing around while the driver learns his trade.
ADT pay rates up here in the North east are closer to £10 per hour through an abency. Finding a decent company will be a challenge,hours on most opencast sites are about 60-65 hours per week,quarries slighty less hours,plant hire and muckshifting companys get a mixed bag of work so it can be more interesting but also has the downside of winter layoffs. PM me if you want any more info |
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15th Sep 2013 6:34pm |
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