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| dnorrishill Member Since: 15 Jul 2011 Location: Hampshire Posts: 615   
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Sounds a bit vague, but positive that something will eventually materialize.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/251444/land-ro...s-silence/ |
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13th Sep 2013 1:06pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610  
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Nothing new I'm afraid. I reckon the Defender's here to stay in it's current form for significantly more than the stated two years to come personally. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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13th Sep 2013 1:14pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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You will see the LAND ROVER disappear from all bonnets. LAND ROVER will be replaced with the model ie DISCOVERY FREELANDER DEFENDER
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13th Sep 2013 6:41pm |
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| Sockpuppet Member Since: 17 Sep 2011 Location: Leicester Posts: 479
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Does anyone know when it can't be sold in the UK anymore? I.e. what is the date the last of the defenders will be registered? |
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13th Sep 2013 7:26pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 
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If for some reason the Defender has to go out of production due to legislative requirements you can pretty much kiss goodbye to any kind of commercial vehicle. Flat fronts, no airbags, that par for the course with commercials. Landrover have been saying for at least TWENTY YEARS that the Defender would have to go out of production due to incoming legislation, I have the old copies or LRO to prove it.
Landrover investigated fitting airbags in the the 1990s to comply with US regs, the answer to that was that it would make the vehicle too expensive, not that it couldn't be done, it just wasn't feasible cost-wise. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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13th Sep 2013 9:09pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707
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All they have to do is keep changing the vehicle to meet the relative requirements as they have been doing over the last few years. Clearly at some point there wont be a viable 'work round' for instance when commercial vehicles have to have airbags fitted. |
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14th Sep 2013 6:38am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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According to this quote from that article, around the end of 2016. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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14th Sep 2013 6:48am |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149
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Please see my comment above, they had a solution for that in the mid-1990s! 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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14th Sep 2013 7:33am |
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| Landyphil Member Since: 23 Jul 2012 Location: Lake District Posts: 87 
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^ Have to totally agree. This line they keep trotting out about it not passing the "next" standard of type approval is bobbins and has been for years.
Type approved as a commercial if the Defender can't make it then neither will most commercials. Would be better if JLR just admitted that making the Defender is too hard and they can't be bothered anymore. More do to with bean counters than emissions counters..... 90XS Tdci John Eales 110 CSW G4 Edition 88" Series 3 Racer |
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16th Sep 2013 9:03pm |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3784  
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Can't see how it will be a big priority for JLR. Article says they're selling 20,000 p.a......they ain't.....they sold 16000 last year...World wide, and 100,000+ Evoques, & what 40/50,000 Range Rovers, so on a business case alone, it can't possibly be a priority.
But, Geez, I gotta say, whilst I'm sure that "something" is happening, JLR are very good at keeping secrets, because so far, not one scrap of FACTUAL info about any "New" Defender has emerged! Cheers, Pickles. |
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16th Sep 2013 10:27pm |
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| mikelike Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: new zealand Posts: 108 |
The reason I feel they only sell 16000 units a year is because the average man cant fit in a Defender, theres no room , they leak , they rattle , and they are expensive compared to modern jap utes that produce more power!! If Land Rover got serious and modernised the current Defender , addressed these issues they could sell 100000 units a year as you would see them once again in the work place every where !!
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17th Sep 2013 6:58am |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149
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Keep in mind that at it's peak, production for the "Defender" (actually the Series IIA at the time) was about 60,000 units per year and that was in about 1969-1970. They have *never* got close to 100,000 a year. In the early 1980s they were struggling to sell 10,000 units a year. At the moment we are still in the middle of a global economic depression and instability, it is not a time when new vehicle purchases are high on the agenda for companies. When it is necessary, they are generally going for the cheapest option available, hence why we see SSE running about in Hiluxes. The fact that they cannot do the same work as a Defender does not come into the equation for the bean-counters.
I do think that if improvements were made in build quality then sales would improve. That said, can anyone explain the pretty strict quota allocations for dealerships, my understanding is that once they have sold their annual quota they cannot sell anymore? 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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17th Sep 2013 8:03am |
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| farmer giles Member Since: 09 Feb 2011 Location: worcestershire Posts: 1299 
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last week i saw a couple of cloaked up LR vehicles going in the opposite direction; hard to say if they were old rrs or unreleased freelander model.
customer assistance technician said he hadn't seen or heard anything regarding new defender. |
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17th Sep 2013 8:50am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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It's probably to do with their production capacity. No point selling more than they can physically build and I doubt they've got much interest in expanding that capacity given all of the other pressures on the Solihull site. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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17th Sep 2013 9:29am |
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