WarPig wrote:

Geobloke on here has upgraded his Puma to Paddocks High Performance solid drilled & grooved discs (Proline brand) and although Ive not seen him post any followup posts, I think he was very happy with them.

Ive since purchased a full set for my 300tdi, along with Greenstuff pads. I havent got them fitted yet though. I know some folk say the grooves might get filled with mud and wear the pads out, but I only do road driving so I decided to bite the bullet.

Upgrading to vented discs may require different callipers due to the size of the discs.

Where does the time go eh?! I can not believe it has been over 2 months since I posted about fitting the disks and pads to my 110. Although I have to admit it is a TD5 not a Puma...

The setup: Front - Proline (Paddocks) Vented, Grooved and Drilled disks and Green Stuff Pads; Rear - Proline (Paddocks) Grooved and Drilled disks and standard LR pads (there are apparently no greenstuff pads for a 110...)

Just over a month ago I came back from a 4 week tour of France and Spain with a heavily laden 110 and quite simply I owe these disks and pads some serious appreciation. The disks and pads have now covered just over 6k miles and are well and truly bedded in, working well. The extra stopping power you get from fitting this setup is superb, seriously superb, amazing in fact. If I was to guesstimate how much I would say that the stopping distance in the dry has reduced by about 1/3rd compared to standard. The real difference is felt when the 110 is laden or towing, the difference makes the expense very worthwhile. I am sure I have these disks and pads to thank for avoiding a number of "brave" Spaniards cutting us up at rush hour just outside Seville...

If you know the mountain roads of the Pyrenees like I now do then you will appreciate the fade resistant greenstuff pads, they really do work very well once warm, can be a little wooden when cold and create quite a lot of brake dust. I will be doing a 6k mile service shortly and will check on wear rate, but i wouldn't be surprised if they are wearing quicker than standard LR pads.

Since being back the 110 has done a number of long drives, whilst mostly empty and I can quite happily say that you should keep an eye out for the poor bloke behind you when braking as he will not expect a Defender to stop as quickly as he can... and I mean that...

I will also say that your braking ability is only as good as the entire setup, if you have duff calipers or old brake fluid then fitting uprated disks and pads is like me wearing £400 trainers and expecting to beat Hussein Bolt

I am a happy customer, after 6k miles.

geobloke wrote:

So toms rear pads are wearing much quicker than the fronts... Is that not concerning?? Shouldn't the brakes be biased to the front?

I will report back on the state of wear when I get the service done this week

Not at all uncommon with 'discs all round' vehicles, most wear evenly each axle, a fair few wear quicker on the rears [Transits being one of the worse] ... i replace far more rear pads than fronts during my working week  Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.

Dave-H wrote:

geobloke wrote:

So toms rear pads are wearing much quicker than the fronts... Is that not concerning?? Shouldn't the brakes be biased to the front?

I will report back on the state of wear when I get the service done this week

Not at all uncommon with 'discs all round' vehicles, most wear evenly each axle, a fair few wear quicker on the rears [Transits being one of the worse] ... i replace far more rear pads than fronts during my working week

geobloke wrote:

I was under the, obviously wrong, impression that the vast majority of the braking is meant to occur at the front axle. I was told by a mechanic that it was usually 60:40 biased to the front... A myth busted I guess...

Not at all...... look at the size difference between front and rear pads and on most vehicles discs.......
Increased wear on commercials (transits) is down to the bias been altered when loaded, the more weight loaded the more the rear braking effect.