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ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

bpman wrote:
Update: I've been given a couple of breathalysers just in case

You only need one you know, or in fact none at all because the famous €13.00 fine for that has been put in the fridge by the french authorities for now. But if you want to be fully compliant with this contradictory law, make sure that the expiry date of that chemical thing is still good.

More importantly, make sure you stay strictly within speed limits everywhere in France, because the speed cameras there have popped up like mushrooms everywhere and at the least expected places first! La gendarmerie also invented a new sport from hiding with mobile speed guns behind bushes, bridges, etc......
The French are in dire need of more tax income, so they get it where they can these days.

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10th Jul 2013 1:56pm

Kitoper

Member Since: 07 Dec 2012
Location: Geneva
Posts: 204

bpman wrote:
TJ101 wrote:
Kitoper wrote:
If you are in Geneva, PM me - I

Wild camped in the hills above Geneva last September,, did get buzzed by some sort of aircraft mind !

there's a great little restaurant in a place called La Barillette Near La Dole .. over looks Lac Leman and the Alps

Update: I've been given a couple of breathalysers just in case

Breathalysers are not need in Switzerland and no longer required in France. The French law is pending. I don't know about Italy. I will be in Brittany as of Monday and until the 4th of August, but will be round this weekend if you are heading up to the Dole

10th Jul 2013 2:07pm

Kitoper

Member Since: 07 Dec 2012
Location: Geneva
Posts: 204

I can only agree with Eric on the speeding in France. On my last trip to Bordeaux, I managed to get flashed twice from I don't know where. I was only 10Kmh over so the fine is 90€ on the spot and 45€ by mail payable by visa. They seem to target foreign plates for on the spot checks. It is quick cash.

10th Jul 2013 2:10pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

I'll make sure my satnav is fully updated with the french maps and cameras, from experience I would never speed in Switzerland again !

10th Jul 2013 2:20pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

bpman wrote:
I'll make sure my satnav is fully updated with the french maps and cameras, from experience I would never speed in Switzerland again !

Believe me, you don't want to do it in France anymore either. And the french gendarmes with their hand held speed guns won't appear on your satnav..... When speeding in France today, you better tune your radio to "Money" by Pink Floyd.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
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10th Jul 2013 2:41pm

Tribord

Member Since: 20 Apr 2013
Location: France
Posts: 220

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Zermatt Silver

No, your satnav is not going to help. You need a mini coyote:
http://www.moncoyote.com/fr/products/
Has saved me a fortune...

10th Jul 2013 7:13pm

TACK

Member Since: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Essex
Posts: 1045

In Switzerland now, in Andermatt, at the bottom of the furka pass. 6 nights in the oztent with mrs Tack and baby Tack, decided to make it a long day and crash at a hotel instead of camping. Off to zermatt tmw, will go up on the mountain train to the observatory and might do the car train up the furka pass as never done that before ( except eurotunnel, that don't count

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Pyrenees mid sept too, with family tack

We got stopped by the French rossers near Metz, all ok and we had no breathalyser on board despite the change of law, they did ask, but was not a problem....

Got stopped in Austria too today, how your luck! Both times were just curious enquiry, no law breaking...

10th Jul 2013 8:22pm

bm52

Member Since: 04 Apr 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 2189

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana

good luck with your trip, don't forget we all like photo's

BM52

10th Jul 2013 8:30pm

yobbie

Member Since: 15 Nov 2010
Location: Isle of Wight
Posts: 713

1999 Defender 90 Td5 Heritage LE Bronze Green

TACK wrote:
Pyrenees mid sept too, with family tack ..

Going solo or in a group? We're off to the Pyrenees mid sept too.

10th Jul 2013 9:28pm

TJ101

Member Since: 30 May 2007
Location: Taunton Somerset
Posts: 3750

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

bpman wrote:
I'll make sure my satnav is fully updated with the french maps and cameras, !

Having the speed camera,s on the sat nav, is now a big No No !!

I know Garmin have disabled all French Camera's on their mapping !!! California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1

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10th Jul 2013 9:42pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

Garmin actually do it very smart. They are having different procedures country by country depending on what the local law permits or not.
With my latest map update that means for instance that my Garmin...
... shows nothing for Switzerland as to speed camera positions
... shows for France a red bar warning that we enter "a danger zone" and this from about 1km before a speed camera.
... shows for Belgium the actual location of speed cameras and calls them so by name, because the law must allow that.
Think Garmin will constantly adapt to new laws as they change,,,,, Pretty good and worth being able to update all of Europe maps every three months

11th Jul 2013 3:59pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

Eric - good to know... I'll plug it in and see what happens, in the UK it tells me where the fixed cameras are and the locations of the mobile ones (whether they are there or not)

the dezl760 is going well, really helps with my expenses too, you can down load a csv into excel and all the work is done

11th Jul 2013 4:50pm

DavidITGuru

Member Since: 15 Aug 2011
Location: London
Posts: 99

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Sumatra Black

Since all the Genevois are posting on this thread, I thought I might do a little hijack and ask if anyone can recommend some gentle tracks in the Chamonix area as it's less than an hour from Geneva? I have found a few mentions of 4x4 tracks on mountain biking web sites but nothing from a 4x4 perspective.

Will have the wife with me so don't want to get cross-axled etc. Just a gentle path and perhaps go for a stroll when we reach the top. Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

26th Jul 2013 3:32pm

TACK

Member Since: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Essex
Posts: 1045

yobbie wrote:
TACK wrote:
Pyrenees mid sept too, with family tack ..

Going solo or in a group? We're off to the Pyrenees mid sept too.

Yobbie we are going with a company 'land treks'

26th Jul 2013 9:21pm

yobbie

Member Since: 15 Nov 2010
Location: Isle of Wight
Posts: 713

TACK wrote:
yobbie wrote:
TACK wrote:
Pyrenees mid sept too, with family tack ..

Going solo or in a group? We're off to the Pyrenees mid sept too.

Yobbie we are going with a company 'land treks'

Cool we're going with Waypoint driving down from Calais on the 13th

27th Jul 2013 6:15am

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