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ken



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They were the old days Andrew they are getting a bit hot on this topic now
Post #19420 4th Dec 2009 8:15am
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AndrewS



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So I own and insure a van and 4 4x4s they are insured for anyone with my permission to drive fully comp. Drivers under 21 are named to keep the cost down. I rarely drive the van as the boys use it. Whats the difference Question
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ken



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Guessing you have company insurance as oppose to Retail I guess Al is the person to put to bed as I have a broker to sort ours out (Self insured Whistle )
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Difference is, you're being upfront about the risk. You're telling the insurers that there are multiple vehicles, multiple drivers etc, and they can make their minds up on the cost to cover that risk because you've fully disclosed the circumstances. Knowing that pretty much anyone could be driving, they charge the appropriate premium.

In Mav's case the insurers have been told that Mav's dad is the main driver, that he does the majority of the motoring. Mav has been proposed as being an occasional driver. As a result, the premium is lower because the risk is smaller. If they were up front about the usage, it would be clear that Mav is the main or possibly sole driver and the risk is therefore greater. I'm talking about statistical risk here, not casting any aspersions on Mav's driving ability.

In the event of a claim where a young, named driver was at the wheel the insurers will want to know what the purpose of the journey was. If it's going to college or going to work, they'll investigate further as this points towards consistent regular use and therefore "fronting" of a policy. They'll expect to see fuel receipts paid by the main driver, other evidence that the main driver's other car hasn't been used regularly etc.

Other things they look at are the cars available to the household, the accessories fitted to the "new driver" car in the house, the condition of the vehicles etc. So if there's a saloon, a 4x4 and a eurobox with a 1.0l engine on the drive and the eurobox has a bangin' stereo and Retard-o seatbelt covers, you're fooked. 

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54 Freelander modded for mud
2008 D3 SE
2010 90 XS SW
1978 88 Series 3 undergoing surgery with a new owner
2007 90 County Truck Cab - gone
2006 D3 SE - gone
2004 Freelander Sport - gay
1999 Disco V8 ES rotted to bits
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AndrewS



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I see Thumbs Up
Post #19448 4th Dec 2009 12:23pm
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roel



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I am lucky I live in The Netherlands Whistle
There is a premium for below 24 years but most off the time the car is on one off the parents name. Further na questions asked. No named drivers etc.
Everybody can drive my car as long as they have a driving license. Roel

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Cibit



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Change your name to Betsy dude girls are less to insure than boys for some strange reason Wink 59 2.4 110 XS Utility
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Post #19456 4th Dec 2009 2:12pm
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Mad Cow



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The reason is less testosterone Laughing

The person most likely to have a car accident is a male under 23.

Girls tend to be more careful drivers and take less risks

This was covered on the BBCs One Show last night and they were very clear that fronting constitutes fraud

Doesn't stop loads of people doing it though Wink MAD COW

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Maverick



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NoDo$h wrote:
In Mav's case the insurers have been told that Mav's dad is the main driver, that he does the majority of the motoring. Mav has been proposed as being an occasional driver. As a result, the premium is lower because the risk is smaller. If they were up front about the usage, it would be clear that Mav is the main or possibly sole driver and the risk is therefore greater.



Errm, my dad was the main the main driver of the 90, I got it for occasional use! For everything else I had the fiesta! Thumbs Up

NoDo$h wrote:
Other things they look at are the cars available to the household, the accessories fitted to the "new driver" car in the house, the condition of the vehicles etc. So if there's a saloon, a 4x4 and a eurobox with a 1.0l engine on the drive and the eurobox has a bangin' stereo and Retard-o seatbelt covers, you're fooked.


All our cars have uprated stereos in them, and the Defender has reccaros in it![/quote] Ben

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Post #19556 6th Dec 2009 5:49pm
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Maverick



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That was a short lived break! Shocked Dad got me some more insurance as soon as it snowed! Back before Christmas! Laughing Love being bavk in that car, its just so good! Thumbs Up Ben

Rebuilt 1996 black/white Defender 90 300 TDi
Post #21410 6th Jan 2010 4:59pm
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willy eckerslike



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fekete



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Welcome back Mav....time to have fun in the snow......get some pics up mate Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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Good to hear your back in the Landie, my first drive when I was 17 was a Series 3 Landie simply because the insurance was so cheap.
Post #21552 8th Jan 2010 8:29am
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Maverick



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Well, as of midnight tonight I'm back in the 90! Very Happy Only temp. Then me the father are swapping cars middle of next month, so at long last I own a Defender! Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Ben

Rebuilt 1996 black/white Defender 90 300 TDi
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