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Mogboy



Member Since: 21 May 2013
Location: Brisbane
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Australia 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Belize Green
Intermittant loss of throttle response Puma 2.4
Last week, my 2.4 Puma suddenly lost throttle response in peak hour traffic...

It was driving well, going through the gears from traffic lights. 1st & 2nd as normal, then 3rd gear and backed off with the traffic flow. Reapplying the accelerator and ZERO response. Tickled it several times, and power again. (I'm not sure whether this brought it back to life, or if there was a lag before it corrected.) This was the same pattern until I reached my destination. Which ever gear I eased up in, and reapplied the throttle it would go dead.

There was no engine malfunction light, and when I restarted the engine to head home again after 15 minute stop, all was well. Back to normal again. I had thought it might be the potentiometer (?) thing connected to the accelerator pedal. It's happened once again driving to the LR specialist here, but they could find nothing wrong. Definitely not the fuel filter, or tank breather.

Anyone else had this happen to throw any light on things?

Cheers
Mogboy
Post #237637 21st May 2013 11:13pm
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pope10001



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United Kingdom 1992 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Zermatt Silver
Could it be the age old problem of the Tdci reaching 110C and cutting out all power until it cools down again?
Post #237646 22nd May 2013 5:33am
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Mogboy



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Thanks Pope, but I don't think so, as it was running at normal, and only played up when I throttled back, and went to accelerate. I did have the overheat power cut back a few years ago, but nothing like that this time.
Post #237649 22nd May 2013 5:44am
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BarneyRubble



Member Since: 08 Mar 2010
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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
Not quite the same, but did have power loss whilst driving - turned out to be a loose relay connection under the drivers seat.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic7371.html

Had LRA check it more than once without it being spotted, so be thorough and tighten all the spade connectors. Barney

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Post #237671 22nd May 2013 7:05am
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custom90



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Not likely but it wasn't whilst warming up was it? TheThunder RollsπŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
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Post #237680 22nd May 2013 7:42am
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Mogboy



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Australia 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Belize Green
Hi Custom90steve
No...the engine was at full operating temperature each time. I've got a 2000km trip through some isolated areas next week, so hopefully if it plays up, I'll still be able to reboot/reset it OK.
Post #237927 22nd May 2013 11:54pm
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Naks



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Puma owner had the same/similar issue, turned out to be a punctured intercooler hose. --
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Post #237931 23rd May 2013 5:01am
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deep down



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It sounds very similar to my problem, the relays under the seat had actually started to come out with all the recent vibration.

After re-seating them all I've had no more problems.
Post #237939 23rd May 2013 6:25am
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Mogboy



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New intercooler hoses here, Naks, so pretty sure it's not that.

Thanks Deepdown, I'll check that out for sure. I regularly drive plenty of rough dirt roads.
Post #238165 23rd May 2013 9:36pm
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HotelCharlie



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Greece 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White
Sorry to say, I got the same problem yesterday.
Upshifting 3rd, 4th and 5th, acceleration has a "hole" of a second or two before reving up normally.
Happened after 10 minutes of driving in the city and for the rest of the trip.
And nothing during all the following trips.
Happy it has stopped, but I know something is wrong. <img>
Post #238837 26th May 2013 9:40pm
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Splitpin



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Maybe a sticking throttle body?

Or an intake air leak or egr issue
Post #238858 27th May 2013 6:01am
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HotelCharlie



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Greece 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White
I was told today by my local stealer that my problem comes from the EGR with fault code P1402 and P0403.
Only problem is this codes become normal when you get a remap with EGR electronicaly blocked like I have.
And they offered to replace the EGR (of course!) speaking of a Technical Bulletin 300296 about a new EGR replacing mine!!
Anybody got lights on this Tech Bulletin 300296, as I don't have access to Topix.

Thanks <img>
Post #247095 27th Jun 2013 1:39am
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Marius



Member Since: 21 Dec 2010
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South Africa 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Keswick Green
Friend of mine had the same problem - turned out the head gasket was leaking........
Post #247098 27th Jun 2013 5:06am
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Intercooler hoses do have a tendancy of chafing on the pulley/flywheel. Still worth a check. Thumbs Up

A few pointers perhaps?

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic9557.html?highlight=chafing

2.2 related but mine was chafed on my 2.4

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Post #247100 27th Jun 2013 5:53am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
HotelCharlie wrote:
... EGR with fault code P1402 and P0403....


I don't see how this could be the case if you have a remap that disables the EGR.
Post #247167 27th Jun 2013 10:43am
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