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| adiep Member Since: 18 Nov 2012 Location: Gibraltar Posts: 204   
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guys. have a problem ! coming back through Gibraltar immigration, the car was stationary, got waved on by the copper, put her into gear and then the clutch pedal just fell to the floor, there was a bit of a crunch... then couldnt get a gear, lifted pedal but any pressure just pushed it back to the floor as if the spring wasnt attached.
Then couldnt get a gear. Took a look below and a nice pool of fluid, on further inspection there appears to be a 5mm hole in the gearbox.. Can anyone help with what to do next. THe dealer i purchased from gave me a years graentee on gearbox, but i have a feeling he will says its wear and tear or a stone or something. I seriously dount anything external made the hole. Please take a look and let me know your thoughts and how to best handle the dealer. 
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/pXMe...directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/afgm...directlink I have to get the car moved from the border car park in 24 hours, the dealer is located 120km away... what would you guys do? |
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27th May 2013 6:42pm |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248  
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Going to stick my neck out but I think that hole exists on the MT82 as normal.
Best guess is the clutch master (or slave, not sure which way round it is  ) cylinder has gone (it is inside the casing), leaked and the oil is coming from the drain hole ?
Good luck. Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! Last edited by bob neville on 27th May 2013 7:00pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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27th May 2013 6:59pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 
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The hole is supposed to be there. The lack of pedal and fluid leaking out suggests a failure of the hydraulics - either a burst pipe or possibly the slave cylinder, which I believe is inside the bellhousing. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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27th May 2013 7:00pm |
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| adiep Member Since: 18 Nov 2012 Location: Gibraltar Posts: 204
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oh well... thats a relief, of sorts... any idea of how much to replace the master or slave? using a dealer?
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27th May 2013 7:08pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6090 
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You can start the engine "in gear" and get going... with some practice you'll be able to change gear without the clutch, by getting the (engine) revs to match the forward speed.
Try giving Tuggy (tuggys4x4) a shout, he's in La Linea, if you don't want to get to your dealers. Although there is (or was) a Rover dealer in Gib. surely they could sort it? |
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27th May 2013 8:31pm |
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| JSG Member Since: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2412 
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Agreed, it is the clutch cylinder that has gone
 John
http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk 2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS |
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27th May 2013 8:56pm |
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| adiep Member Since: 18 Nov 2012 Location: Gibraltar Posts: 204
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big thanks to all, should be easy enough to get sorted now armed with this info
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28th May 2013 3:41am |
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| adiep Member Since: 18 Nov 2012 Location: Gibraltar Posts: 204
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if the slave has gone, should i replace the master too? or not required?
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28th May 2013 8:22am |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6090
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Might as well. there could be some contamination of the fluid back up into the master (although the oil doesn't "move" that much when you press the pedal)
But is the slave gave out, then chances are (due to age) the master might be on its last legs too. |
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28th May 2013 10:36am |
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| adiep Member Since: 18 Nov 2012 Location: Gibraltar Posts: 204
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its a 2008 motor with 90000km on the clock, would that be expected?
I was running it for about 30 minutes offroad in first with no clutch, using anti-stall before it went, maybe connected? would that stress it? my 4 year old son was sat on my lap steering |
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28th May 2013 11:13am |
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| adiep Member Since: 18 Nov 2012 Location: Gibraltar Posts: 204
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Guys, the mechanic thinks i he needs to remove the entire gearbox to change the slave on a puma, is that right? he says its a days and half work... is that correct?
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31st May 2013 12:09pm |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248
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It is a gearbox out job I believe.
Not sure of the length of time needed though. Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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31st May 2013 12:12pm |
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