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Barneyboy



Member Since: 19 Nov 2014
Location: Exmoor
Posts: 1626
England 1986 Defender 90 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Nato Green
Hi DG123 is there any chance that the bolts when fitted on the seat box are allowing water through although it does sound like you are getting a lot of water in but then the seat box is above the rear wheel so has plenty of momentum, also are both the side window and rear side window seals all good, sounds like a good dowsing with a hose with you inside should hopefully get to the bottom of this, hope you find the leak Thumbs Up Paul
Post #798461 17th Oct 2019 5:26am
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boxoftricks



Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
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Post #798463 17th Oct 2019 7:04am
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boxoftricks



Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
Location: Home Counties
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
DG123 wrote:
Tried to get to the bottom of a pretty major leak in the back of the 110. Passengers are not happy with the smell of rotting carpets and were not looking forward to a long trip we’ve planned for 1/2 term next week.

I took the offending carpet out together with fold up seat and all the trim in passenger side rear.



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I thought the source of the leak would be pretty obvious given the sheer amount of water around but unfortunately this wasn’t the case. Carpet on top of wheel arch and almost 1/2 of boot floor carpet are soaked. Carpet on top of wheel arch was wettest where I’ve circled in red below.





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I thought the foam strip sealing the tub was the likely candidate as it’s not particularly level, but this joint seems bone dry on the inside



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Any ideas? I’ll have to sit inside next time it rains. I can’t face putting it back together with no solution.

To make matters worse, I managed to shear off the stud on the dickie seat. A case of too much haste Rolling Eyes



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Hopefully there’s enough length left to get a nut on. Otherwise I’ll have to grind it off and weld on a new bolt Confused


On mine the bolts holding the tub on that when tighten compress the foam strip were loose. One was totally missing in the middle. Maybe torque them down a bit.

I would get a pressure washer or hose pipe on the outside of it whilst someone sits inside. I went over all of my seams with Tiger Seal including running it down the foam strips you mentioned.

Have a look around where the rear lights, indicators bolt through.
Post #798464 17th Oct 2019 7:08am
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
^^^ Use an assistant with a hose pipe, it is just about the only way to find leaks like this. I wouldn't use a pressure washer since this is likely for force water in in places that don't actually leak in rain (I tend to use a hose with one of those sprinkler nozzles for watering plants to mimic heavy rain).
Post #798475 17th Oct 2019 8:03am
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DG123



Member Since: 29 Aug 2015
Location: North West
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
Cheers blackwolf and boxoftricks. I’ll get the hose out later when my willing assistant returns from school Very Happy
Might just run sealant down the foam strip anyway as it does look the most likely candidate. 2012 110 XS SW Orkney Grey
2003 D2 Td5 Black [SOLD]
Post #798476 17th Oct 2019 8:07am
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DG123



Member Since: 29 Aug 2015
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
Hi barneyboy, I checked the bolts and they seemed OK.

I’m not sure whether the water’s coming in through the wheel arch whilst driving or just leaking from rain. The water does look pretty clean though, so I suspect rain and we have had an awful lot lately.

Bizarrely, just prior to this the main leak was in the passenger footwell and I’ve just had a new front door seal delivered to try and fix that one. Like many things with the Defender the footwell leak was frustratingly intermittent - went for months dry as a bone and just when you thought it was sorted it’d be back with a deluge Banging Head

I’ll have to get the hose out 2012 110 XS SW Orkney Grey
2003 D2 Td5 Black [SOLD]
Post #798493 17th Oct 2019 10:36am
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2645
South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Had the rear electrical wiring re-done & upgraded (long overdue): they ripped out the old wiring which ran undernead the drawer system, and re-routed it outside on top of the chassis.

Also added a new rear-view camera & mirror and new Bosch AeroTwin wiper blades (highly recommend these @ R315 a pair).

It cost a pretty packet, but as usual, top job by Mette's Auto Electrical!



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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



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Post #798519 17th Oct 2019 2:59pm
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Barneyboy



Member Since: 19 Nov 2014
Location: Exmoor
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England 1986 Defender 90 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Nato Green
DG123 wrote:
Hi barneyboy, I checked the bolts and they seemed OK.

I’m not sure whether the water’s coming in through the wheel arch whilst driving or just leaking from rain. The water does look pretty clean though, so I suspect rain and we have had an awful lot lately.

Bizarrely, just prior to this the main leak was in the passenger footwell and I’ve just had a new front door seal delivered to try and fix that one. Like many things with the Defender the footwell leak was frustratingly intermittent - went for months dry as a bone and just when you thought it was sorted it’d be back with a deluge Banging Head

I’ll have to get the hose out

Hi DG123 I know it’s a pain but I’m sure with a bit of perseverance you will get to the bottom of it, Thumbs Up Paul
Post #798590 18th Oct 2019 5:39am
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AJC



Member Since: 30 Nov 2015
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Yesterday went and picked up this little gem.
Post #798721 19th Oct 2019 5:30am
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JOW240725



Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
Very nice, what's the plan? Thumbs Up James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html
MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557
Instagram @suffolk_rovers
Post #798732 19th Oct 2019 6:59am
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AJC



Member Since: 30 Nov 2015
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Just do a few jobs on it, get it MOT’d.

My keep it as a work horse whilst I do my house up but seems a shame to ruin a 200tdi D1 as they’re a bit scarce now. Engine is super sweet as is gearbox. Done 120k and last owner 15 years.
Post #798789 19th Oct 2019 4:42pm
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JOW240725



Member Since: 04 May 2015
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
Thumbs Up James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html
MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557
Instagram @suffolk_rovers
Post #798790 19th Oct 2019 4:48pm
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Rosco



Member Since: 03 Dec 2010
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
Like that AJC. I have a bit of a soft spot for the discovery having had a K plate 200tdi as a bit of a green lane toy about 12 years ago. Was pretty much unstoppable out of the box. Shame the ones in my price range now are all snotters.

Still haven't got the 110 back so had to do an ikea run in the courtesy disco sport. Doesn't matter you drive there it's never a pleasant experience Mad 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW
Post #798803 19th Oct 2019 8:03pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
AJC wrote:

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Yesterday went and picked up this little gem.


That trailer looks as though it's barely coping!
Post #798811 19th Oct 2019 9:27pm
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custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
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My 90 passed it’s MOT with a clean sweep Friday.
Glad that is over, as I can get on with other jobs now.
Seems only like yesterday I had the last.

It’s worrying how time flys it really is!
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