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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731   
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Please can someone advise me what's the best type of lock washers for my turbo manifold bolts? Split, ribbed?
The M8 bolts (10.9) have stayed tight for a few days (re-tightened after cooling) but they're always easy to undo 
I want to make bloody sure they won't come out again before I refit the heat shield. Cheers Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Mar 2013 3:30pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610  
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Matt,
If it were me and I was concerned about it I would source some bolts that you could wirelock with steel wire as depicted below. Wirelocking is used prolifically in the aviation engineering World..... 
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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10th Mar 2013 3:35pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Cheers Mal - looks the biz, but trouble is the three bolt heads are on opposite sides of the flange and rather far apart. It's bloody awkward just getting fingers in to do them up. Might try it as a last resort though
Any "lazy" solutions? Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Mar 2013 4:05pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Guy on the Mustang forum just suggested these babies:
http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=0162564 I've looked like hell but can't seem to get them (sent) here  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Mar 2013 4:55pm |
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| GUM97 Member Since: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3555 
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As they the same as here? http://www.nord-lock.com/
They've got an address in the UK... An engine to TDi for! "Land Rover- Proudly turning drivers into mechanics since 1948" |
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10th Mar 2013 5:00pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Yep - the same ones - look serious, don't they
Nord Lock have loads of distributors in Germany but none seem to sell to Joe Public
Actually... I tell a lie. If I want to buy 500 (at nearly a Euro each), it's not a problem 
There are a few online shops in the UK but at first glance they don't ship to Germany. I've E-Mailed a few so fingers crossed (or "thumbs pressed" as they say here). Otherwise I might ask a helpful forum member if they would take delivery in the UK and send them on to me  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Mar 2013 6:01pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Just let me know Matt and I'll do it! You still got the address? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
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10th Mar 2013 6:13pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Cheers Mal - yup, I'm sure I have it somewhere
I'll wait a day for E-Mail replies (or lack of) then let you know 
Steve - that was my original plan but since the dealer has already bolted (studded) it on twice and the LR studs/nuts have kept loosening/falling out (the original ones did too - I've no clue why), I've fitted a Nak gasket and am trying a less conventional approach. It's currently only very slightly leaky (probably warped a bit) but no noise or other symptoms. I decided against using paste - fitted it dry and sod the leaks  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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10th Mar 2013 6:28pm |
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| v8steve Member Since: 18 Apr 2011 Location: dumfries scotland Posts: 195 
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i work for a fastener company and we stock nord-lock washers. let me know what you need and i'll see what i can do. should have what you want in stock. if so i'll even post them out to you gratis.(favor owed).
however should you torque these up right and later want to remove them you will have a job on your hands. 110 xs s/wagon s3 swb soft top |
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10th Mar 2013 7:30pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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If possible, that would be fantastic
I only actually need 3 washers but I reckon 6 or so would be a good safety margin for me 
The ones I'm after are Nord Lock NL8 (M  hardened steel zinc plated (not stainless).
It's pretty hard to torque them correctly as you can only get a ring spanner in there. As far as removing them goes, I hope I will never have to... as long as I live Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Mar 2013 7:55pm |
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| v8steve Member Since: 18 Apr 2011 Location: dumfries scotland Posts: 195
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no probs. i'll have a look tomorrow. and let you know tomorrow night and if in stock you can p.m. your address.
 110 xs s/wagon
s3 swb soft top |
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10th Mar 2013 9:40pm |
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| v8steve Member Since: 18 Apr 2011 Location: dumfries scotland Posts: 195
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have washers here ready to be posted if you can pm me your address.
happy to help 110 xs s/wagon
s3 swb soft top |
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11th Mar 2013 9:29pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Steve, they just arrived
Blimey - they are so cool - serious engineering for washers. No wonder I couldn't get them from the "normal"places... not that you're "abnormal" of course 
A million thanks 
May the sun shine forever on your Defender
Have a great weekend, Matt p.s. I'll leave feedback on the forum if they work Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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23rd Mar 2013 8:49am |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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They are seriously awesome
When undoing bolts used alone, after you break the stiction they undo without resistance. With the Nord Lock washers, it takes much more effort to start undoing the bolts and even then, they still resist for another 1/2 turn or so. I need to keep an eye on them for a few months but I am seriously impressed. No wonder they're a quid each
At least you can re-use them... Cheers all, especially Mal and V8Steve
Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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30th Mar 2013 4:20pm |
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