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badwookie



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Kuwait 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
TDCI Clutch Kit
Hi All,

I found this Clutch kit on Ebay. It's for the Ford Transit engine. If the Puma has the same engine, would this kit give me the same improvements mentioned in the following link :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-TRANSIT-2-4-DI-...9795326113
Post #24669 19th Feb 2010 1:22pm
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mrwoo



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
Re: TDCI Clutch Kit
badwookie wrote:
Hi All,

I found this Clutch kit on Ebay. It's for the Ford Transit engine. If the Puma has the same engine, would this kit give me the same improvements mentioned in the following link :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-TRANSIT-2-4-DI-...9795326113


The puma does not have a dual mass flywheel unlike some variations of the transit - there are reported clutch problems with the Puma but they are definately not to do with it being a dual mass flywheel.

Thanks
Post #24670 19th Feb 2010 1:49pm
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WinBoot



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The dual clutch would be nice to fit tough, wouldn't it be easy to fit since the engine is allready from Ford?
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LESVOSD110



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It's not a dualmass kit.The flywheel is a solid one to replace dualmass one.E-mail the seller as it would be a good find if it fits.Cheers Puma 110 SW
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dgardel



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Sorry, but its for the OLD DI 2.4L NOT for the our 2.4 TDCi (born on 2006)......

see the metal lever for the clutch operation. Our engine have a coaxial piston.....

the spring are different too

this is our clutch


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code LR012199


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badwookie



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Kuwait 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
Just contacted another company in the UK (RS400 Performance Tuning). They informed me that they can convert a factory puma clutch into a 5 paddle cerametalic clutch. According to them, this clutch would perform better than standard if I'm adding another 60hp to the engine.

Any opinions?
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Sonic3d



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badwookie wrote:
if I'm adding another 60hp to the engine.Any opinions?


Think someone is telling you porkys if they can get an extra 60 donkies Rolling with laughter
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badwookie



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Kuwait 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
I should be getting an extra 60hp (approx) from the following upgrades:

- Stage 2 Tune Kit + Remap and Delimiter
- Samco sport silicone hoses
- Performance Exhaust system
- Lowered performance suspension suspension system
- Allisport propane kit

will the 5 paddle clutch of any use ? After installing the above mentioned items, I'm going to drive with the factory clutch for a while and see what happens. I'm almost certain that there is a clutch upgrade for my situation.
Post #24870 22nd Feb 2010 5:28pm
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fekete



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If your going to get an extra 60 donkeys you want to think about up grading your life insurance Whistle NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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Sonic3d



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Now you`ve mentioned propane i agree Thumbs Up
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mhill



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badwookie wrote:
I should be getting an extra 60hp (approx) from the following upgrades:

- Stage 2 Tune Kit + Remap and Delimiter
- Samco sport silicone hoses
- Performance Exhaust system
- Lowered performance suspension suspension system
- Allisport propane kit

will the 5 paddle clutch of any use ? After installing the above mentioned items, I'm going to drive with the factory clutch for a while and see what happens. I'm almost certain that there is a clutch upgrade for my situation.


I know nothing of defender tuning but a fair amount on VAG tuning, from that angle silicone hoses will not add any HP or Torque but will allow the engine to breath easier thus in turn allowing the turbo to spool quicker.

It baffles me that every one connected with the tuning of these vehicles seems to think that intercoolers add HP, is anyone able to explain why they do in this application? (i know how a intercooler works but never seen one add HP)

On the same lines in VAG applications OEM clutches are good foe around 20-30% increases before experiencing slippage. It will depend on what sort of strength the Land Rover OEM clutch is.
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Sonic3d



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mhill wrote:

It baffles me that every one connected with the tuning of these vehicles seems to think that intercoolers add HP, is anyone able to explain why they do in this application? (i know how a intercooler works but never seen one add HP)


The cooler you can get the intake the the more dense it is so more power, just try driving an intercooled engine without one and you will see how much they do Thumbs Up and then you will appreciate what a larger one will do for power
Post #24903 22nd Feb 2010 11:50pm
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Allan



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badwookie wrote:
I should be getting an extra 60hp (approx) from the following upgrades:

- Stage 2 Tune Kit + Remap and Delimiter
- Samco sport silicone hoses
- Performance Exhaust system
- Lowered performance suspension suspension system
- Allisport propane kit

will the 5 paddle clutch of any use ? After installing the above mentioned items, I'm going to drive with the factory clutch for a while and see what happens. I'm almost certain that there is a clutch upgrade for my situation.


My son had this type of clutch in his much modified Subaru WRX STi and it was almost undrivable in traffic. OK if you race one.

Allan
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WinBoot



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Allan wrote:
My son had this type of clutch in his much modified Subaru WRX STi and it was almost undrivable in traffic. OK if you race one.

Allan

Why was it undrivable then?
Post #24935 23rd Feb 2010 12:25pm
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Sonic3d



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I guess it would bite easily Thumbs Up making stop start jerky
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