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fumiyasu

Member Since: 19 Jun 2015
Location: Oxon
Posts: 99

1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Santorini Black

What to do in Geneva and Valais region?

I am planning to go to Geneva and driving around the Valais region, likely in a saloon car rather than the Defender...

My plans to be in Geneva for two nights and then get close to Matterhorn to drive around some alpine roads and cable car around the mountains.

Would love to hear from any Swiss members if there are any off the tourist track attractions we that we should definitely do?

2nd Nov 2016 1:49pm

flydive

Member Since: 27 Aug 2015
Location: Lugano
Posts: 290

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Heritage Edition SW Grasmere Green

I'm on the other side of Switzerland, so not much help.

Try to PM ericvv and Arran73

3rd Nov 2016 11:04am

Ramsay

Member Since: 30 Sep 2015
Location: Moffat, Dumfries & Galloway
Posts: 627

1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Auto Keswick Green

Are you driving over or flying and renting?

Makes a difference which country you rent from at Geneva airport and when you need to buy an autoroute vignette. 1995 Defender 110 CSW
1971 SIIA Lightweight

3rd Nov 2016 11:30am

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

When we lived there, some weekends we used to tour around the lake, take in Evian, Yvoire & Emosson (dam), designer retail outlet at Aubonne.

Geneva has lots to see and do ... PM EricVV

AND DONT SPEED !

3rd Nov 2016 12:47pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1763

@BPman. People always say that, but I was running late driving from Basel back to Zurich airport recently, so was pressing on a little. Had several people come up behind, and then past me that made me look like I was standing still! Could also hear many loud expensive cars of an evening that definitely weren't going within the limit!

3rd Nov 2016 3:00pm

fumiyasu

Member Since: 19 Jun 2015
Location: Oxon
Posts: 99

Thanks everyone,

I am planning to drive all the way there actually, probably stopping in France around Dijon the night before we get to Switzerland. Will be going to Lyon and then the Bordeaux area after leaving Switzerland.

Not sure about the outlet given current FX lol. But will try to pm EricVV.

I guess I need to get the French toll thing and also the autoroute vignette. From the posts I have seen, everyone's been saying don't speed as the most important thing

I actually originally wanted to bring something with some poke with all those alpine passes but I guess that's probably out of the question now...

3rd Nov 2016 4:20pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

miker wrote:
@BPman. People always say that, but I was running late driving from Basel back to Zurich airport recently, so was pressing on a little. Had several people come up behind, and then past me that made me look like I was standing still! Could also hear many loud expensive cars of an evening that definitely weren't going within the limit!

Luck was on your side ...

3rd Nov 2016 4:41pm

JimC

Member Since: 22 Jan 2011
Location: NOVA
Posts: 164

2007 Defender 130 300 Tdi HCPU Arles Blue

Speeding is ok, but paying the tickets you might get will cost big time. I paid 110 euros for a 13kmh over one time - that's a 20-30 euro ticket in Germany...

3rd Nov 2016 7:58pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

The vignette is only required if you use the motorway

4th Nov 2016 7:35am

fumiyasu

Member Since: 19 Jun 2015
Location: Oxon
Posts: 99

I see, how are speeding tickets calculated anyway?

Also, on the Vignettes, am I right that you just have one that last for a year and there are no other options?

4th Nov 2016 9:36am

flydive

Member Since: 27 Aug 2015
Location: Lugano
Posts: 290

Yes, vignette, the only option is the yearly one, 40 CHF. (fine is 200 CHF and you have to buy the vignette on the spot)

Speeding:

https://www.ch.ch/en/driving-over-speed-limit/

and

http://www.polizei.bs.ch/dms/polizei/downl..._radar.pdf

The tagessatze is a day rate based on your income.

Jail time is also a possibility.

Also, speed traps are often very well hidden/camouflaged

4th Nov 2016 12:37pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

my old neighbour got a 3 month ban and 15% or 20% of his household income for 1 year fine (household income from himself and his wife) - Switzerland fined a guy US$360,000 - based in speed and income and there was talk about crushing his supercar ...

4th Nov 2016 1:25pm

fumiyasu

Member Since: 19 Jun 2015
Location: Oxon
Posts: 99

That's some hefty fine.. To be honest I tend to stick to the speed limit in foreign roads anyway unless I know the area well and actually I don't think I have speeded that much in the UK these days neither. I guess it might be because I drive the defender a lot these days..

I actually quite like that income based fine system, it kind off says you are not above the law even if you drive a Pagani etc...

4th Nov 2016 1:42pm

Arran73

Member Since: 25 Mar 2013
Location: Commugny, Switzerland
Posts: 133

Hi, when in Geneva drive to nyon and take a boat across to yvoire, it's lovely old medieval town well worth visiting for lunch. 1997 Defender 90 300tdi

4th Nov 2016 8:28pm

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