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Killer90
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looks like your going to be busy Thumbs Up have you thought about a galv chassi that would be something you would learn alot from Thumbs Up
Post #154884 10th Jul 2012 9:19pm
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IKke



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Netherlands 1986 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Keswick Green
Yes I've thought about it. And every time I was working on this outrigger I was thinking "A galvanized chassis would sort all (future) chassis rust problems". But I can't really justify it because it's only this outrigger that is rotten away.

There is 1 small hole the size of a pound coin in the other, but the rest of the chassis is pretty solid. All the rest of the rust (as far as I've seen) is only light or surface rust. So i'm gonna paint the chassis with hamerite and than waxoil it.

One day when I have some more money (still a poor student now) I'll build my own landy from the ground up Very Happy Scaling the real deal.
Post #154895 10th Jul 2012 10:05pm
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IKke



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Netherlands 1986 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Keswick Green
W-day
Today was W-day. Indeed welding day. I got up extra early to remove the last bit of outrigger using the hand saw and a file because a friend would come over to weld on the outrigger at 2 p.m.

So when he arrived I tried the outrigger on, uhm... that didn't really fit properly...
When we put a 12mm rod in the 2 holes/tubes to line up the outrigger to the bulkhead the outrigger would leave a huge gap above the chassis on the rear side of the outrigger Confused . Anyway it's fitted now, here are some photos of today.

Hint: the parasol isn't for the sun Whistle

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And the result. Welding was done with a mig welder using a wire that need no gas. It does leave a bit of white dust but that easily wipes off.

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Sorry for this badly focused photo.

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And with a blop of paint on the welds.

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 Scaling the real deal.
Post #155079 11th Jul 2012 9:05pm
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Well done, better welding than mine! Hate welding under cars, I can do really good stuff on the bench but it's a different game under there.

PS. I thought you said 'wedding day' in the first line of your post, now welding an outrigger onto your Land Rover on your wedding day... that would be living dangerously!
Post #155081 11th Jul 2012 9:11pm
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IKke



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Netherlands 1986 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Keswick Green
Laughing Not planning any weddings for a looooong time Razz

But back to welding. The quality of the welds is the reason I'd asked a friend, and particulary this friend to weld it. He is an amazingly experienced and knowledgeable fabricator. He welds also has alot of welding experience from cast iron to welding stainless steel boilers for scale steam trains. He even said that these welds didn't look very nice and that next time we should clean the surfaces (paint/rust) better and use gas to weld it.

I'm happy with the result anyway Very Happy Scaling the real deal.
Post #155082 11th Jul 2012 9:21pm
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IKke



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Netherlands 1986 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Keswick Green
tiny update

The whole front end is painted and wax oiled. Only the rear area from the rear outriggers to the bumpers left.

Before:

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After removing rust and painting. Before waxoiling.

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Post #158354 27th Jul 2012 5:04pm
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Coming along very nicely! Keep the reports coming! Thumbs Up Peter
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Post #158418 27th Jul 2012 9:33pm
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Nice work! Thumbs Up Bet you can't wait to get it together and back on the road, especially as all this work wasn't initially envisaged.
Well done! Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #158431 27th Jul 2012 9:58pm
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IKke wrote:
@chiefstoker: You're welcome. Do you also need to replace an outrigger?

@Retroanaconda: I was quite happy to discover no rot because I've read in quite a few places that people discovered holes in their chassis after they cut the outrigger off.


No, my chassis is good. I just appreciate it when people make the effort to do a report on something Cool
To me, the older trucks seem far more interesting than the newer ones. Incidentally, I drove past a house the other day and it was full of old dead land rovers Crying or Very sad - think my daughter took some pics with her phone so I will post up when I can 2005 TD5 90 Hard Top

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Post #158448 28th Jul 2012 6:03am
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IKke



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Netherlands 1986 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Keswick Green
@K9F: You bet I can't wait. I actually was a bit done with the landy. But then I had to move it to the other side of the driveway. And being able to drive it again made me see why I did all the work. Mr. Green

@chiefstoker: They are quite more costly. But being a 1986 it's one of the last (road) tax free land rovers over here saving me €1800 a year in roadtax. Which makes it quite worthwhile. Especially when I plan on keeping it long term.

And I'll get some more pictures when I get back working on it.

A last upside is that i finally got it insured. Again quite a bit more then(than?) I was hoping for at €700. I tried to insure it as an oldtimer but was unable to do so because I'm under 24 and don't own any other cars and have zero damage free years on my name. So all by all the 700 is not to bad I guess. Neutral Scaling the real deal.
Post #158581 28th Jul 2012 10:46pm
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IKke



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Netherlands 1986 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Keswick Green
Another tiny update.

I just love how nice and black the front end is.

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And now the rear right section is also de-rusted and painted.

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And the rear cross member and 3 link bar is also nicely painted

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And I also discovered this little light near the rear diff, anyone know why the army fitted these?

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 Scaling the real deal.
Post #159725 3rd Aug 2012 5:24pm
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IKke wrote:

And I also discovered this little light near the rear diff, anyone know why the army fitted these?

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Nice work Ikke!

I think the light is for illuminating the back of the rear diff, which was painted white, this was used in war conditions when driving in colonne. That way the vehicle driving behind you could see you if no driving lights were used at night in war conditions. Cheers, Vincent
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Post #159734 3rd Aug 2012 5:40pm
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IKke



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Netherlands 1986 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Keswick Green
That explains, cause they light up with lights on convoy setting. And there was white piant on the rear diff. Cheers for that. Thumbs Up Scaling the real deal.
Post #159767 3rd Aug 2012 6:55pm
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Yup, that's your convoy light. As mentioned, for tactical night driving. The lamp should rotate with a large hole and a small hole to allow the light out, so you can make it really "dim".

But the method is, you have convoy mode on, and following vehicles can see where you are and follow... makes for interesting cross country driving sometimes.

i remember doing it in a Bedford 4 tonner... and the person behind me (driving the same) forgot to stop.... Rolling Eyes
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Great project! Good luck with it.
Post #159829 4th Aug 2012 7:20am
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