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danridge



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Curious things in the battery box
Can anyone identify what these are for?

On the outside of the battery box, between where the passenger legs would be there is a switch (turns 90 degrees left/right) and also some kind of push fit connector or perhaps its just a neat cable exit hole?


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Inside the battery box the back of the switch (with the white back) has two battery type screw/nut connectors.
This looks to me like either a manual switch to switch between batteries? or a security device to quickly disconnect the battery.


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I have no idea what the other push fit/cable exit thing might be (the black one) but looks like those are also battery connectors.

I have another connector that disappears off into the transmission tunnel but I'll post that 'what is this?' later

Thanks, Dan.
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leeds



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Isolation switches.

My guess is that the vehicle has been winched equipped in the past and someone has removed winches and cabling.


Brendan
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dondiddy



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Hi Dan, They are both battery cut out switches. The black one works by inserting a removable red key and then turning it to the on position. Like you suggested they may have at some point been used as a means of disconnecting the battery as a security device or your vehicle has had a winch fitted at some point. Hope this helps! Smile
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danridge



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Thanks guys. Could I use the white one as a quick battery disconnect?
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Yes that's what they are used for
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As said,, Battery kill switch, and a winch isolator switch

Get one of the below for the kill switch,


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danridge



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Great Been meaning to do some security with the battery.
Is there any reason why I can't wire the battery to the existing switch (black one, winch isolator) ?
I know it's not as secure as a key but the seat pops of anyway and if it's easy to do I'll use it all the time

If not then the key it is.

For either of them, there a right and wrong way to wire the positive/negative?
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dondiddy



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Dan, Normally it is the positive lead that is isolated. You need to get a new positive cable with a ring terminal at one end to run from the battery positive to either post on the isolator. Your existing battery cable (the one you have removed from the battery)then needs a ring terminal fitted if it doesn`t already have one and then this cable is fitted to the other terminal on the isolator. It doesn`t matter which way round they go onto the isolator as this is a basic isolator without a feed terminal to supply your radio, clock etc. Although you are working with the positive lead it is good practice to disconnect the negative lead at the same time to avoid the possibility of a short. Hope this helps! Smile
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danridge



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Cheers Don

So like this (before and after)?


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Spot on! Thumbs Up
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danridge



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Cool thanks! As long as I only use this as a security device and not to kill the engine this will not affect the alternator right?

Coming home:
Pull up, ignition off, keys out, isolate battery, jump out.

Leaving Home:
Jump in, connect battery, keys in and fire her up
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Yes , Thats the correct sequence. You should never turn the isolator to the off position when the engine is running as it may damage the alternator. The only issue you may have is that your radio if coded will loose the code and the clock if fitted will loose the correct time. Neutral
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danridge



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Its an after market stereo with no code so that's ok. I'll have to live with the clock. It was hours out when I bought the truck and I though it was broken but I set the time and its been fine. Must have been out cause of the isolator.

Right - if you haven't had enough already Very Happy here's the other one I couldn't work out. Also fitted to batter box wall but close to the transmission tunnel and I can see where the wiring goes.

Any idea?


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Not too good with electrickery but could you use a wire from the "in" side of the isolator to the "out" side of the isolator with an in line fuse to give power for clock radio etc but would blow the fuse if attempting to start the car with the isolator in the "off" position.Just a thought. 2005 Td5 90 XS

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To keep codes in the radio, clock running etc put say a 10 amp fuse across the contacts.


If any attempt is made to start the engine fuse will blow.


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