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BigWheels



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BMW 5 cyl v Rover 4 cyl TD5
I've seen a BMW TD5 (with 5 cylinders) for sale. Is this motor better than the Rover 4 cylinder more usually found?

What are the pros & cons of the beemer motor? Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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The Td5 is NOT a BMW engine.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Which Rover engine do you mean?  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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The 110 is a LR Special Vehicles for Western Power. I was told it has a BMW 2.5 TDS engine. Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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A 4 cylinder TD5 would go like a bag of Shiite 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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It'll be a Td5 like any other. The seller doesn't know their Defenders.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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AndrewS wrote:
A 4 cylinder TD5 would go like a bag of Shiite


Yep - mine was pants Sad  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Then it would have been called a TD4 Shocked Wait a minute...TD4...bag of Censored ...... is theTD4 not some times referred to as the Puma Question Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
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Lorryman100 wrote:
Then it would have been called a TD4 Shocked Wait a minute...TD4...bag of Censored ...... is theTD4 not some times referred to as the Puma Question Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter


TD4 is/was used in Freelander. Puma has never been TD4, it's TDCI (whatever that means).

Agree TD5 is not a BMW engine, it's the last proper LR-commissioned engine for Defender, and there probably won't be another.
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So the 2.2 Puma is not the the same engine as what's in the TD4 freelander? Rolling Eyes TDCI is the Ford engine used on older 2.4 Pumas. TDCI Turbo Diesel (commonrail) Compression Ignition, newest version being Duratorq. Thumbs Up
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So the 2.2 Puma is not the the same engine as what's in the TD4 freelander?


No, completley different engine's.

Mk 1 Freelander Td4 was a BMW M47 Diesel
Mk 2 Freelander Td4 is a Peugeot/ Citroen DW12 Diesel Richard

Either a 90, 110 or 130.
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Wales 
Funnily enough we (in the UK) are the only folk who call the 2.4 defender the Puma. On the continent they are generally referred to as the TD4 to distinguish them from the earlier TD5.
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