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Nick T



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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Galway Green
Am I being fed a load of bull????
To keep it brief.

90 had repairs done to combat serious water ingress. Was returned with a poorly fitted door, catching on pillar. Didn't have time to return and was sick to death after numerous visits to rectify fault.

Recently had problems with no starting and poor starting so it's in dealers again. Whilst in for a coat of looking at I have requested that if possible could they sort the door.

Had a phone call to say that because I have a non LR roofrack and a CB ariel trapped between the door and seal that they can't sort it and I now have a knackered door seal (which is complete tosh!!!)

They also stipulated that no fault codes can be found and questioned about the scangauge2 which is plugged in.

Have I dropped a boob by leaving the scangauge plugged in and having a non LR roofrack, can they pull the "sorry sir but your warranty is void" which is where the conversation seemed to be leading.
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BigMike



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I see your location - which dealer are we talking about? The fact you have a non-LR roofrack shouldnt make a blond bit of difference but if you're taking it in with a cb aerial trapped in the door seal you're kind of asking for toruble really.

Also scangauge shouldn't make any difference, it's a monitoring tool after all.
Post #129792 8th Mar 2012 5:14pm
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Nick T



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It's in at Bury. There is absolutly no damage to the seal and for once it isn't even leaking!
Post #129793 8th Mar 2012 5:18pm
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BigMike



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I would try Russell (warranty manager) at Hillendale. He's pretty fair and is well used to dodgy door seals and badly aligned panels. They worked on mine for a week for example.
Post #129796 8th Mar 2012 5:28pm
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couplands



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FWIW, water leaks can find their way down such a cable route quite easily. I had this issue on mine and routing the cable via a hole and sealing, stopped the leak.

Sounds like the dealer is being a tad difficult in try help with the issues, is it possible to find another..?

cheers

simon
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Nick T



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Thanks for the advise. I will try to contact Russell. I don't have any water leaks anymore-I'm not asking for any leaks to be cured. I just want the badly fitted/catching door (which they refitted last time) to be sorted.
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BigMike



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Just a thought, but is it something as simple as the striker? That's pretty easy to adust yourself and would save you a load of hassle.
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Nick T



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No mate. It's totaly out of square. It looks like they also dropped the roof a tad can see marks on the bulkhead/windscreen clamps, also one gutter is full of sealant after their last repair.
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bpman



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did they have the roof lining out to find the leak(s)? I've not come across one leaking on the side gutters, mainly the front (over the windscreen) or around the rear door..

I see no reason to take the door off or adjust it to stop a leak.

got any photos ?
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Zagato
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Nick T wrote:
No mate. It's totaly out of square. It looks like they also dropped the roof a tad can see marks on the bulkhead/windscreen clamps


Thought that would have made it worse Confused Sounds as though they don't know what they are doing and just can't do it Rolling Eyes

There is a guy with a hammer on the production line that adjusts the doors as best he can. He use the handle of the wooden hammer to push/bend the door in various places to get it to fit Rolling Eyes Pretty skilled though Laughing
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Nick T



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To be honest I reckon they cracked the paint in the gutter when trying to re-jig things. Easier to cover with sealant.
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The problem most of the time is that they just haven't got the inclination, skill or care if they are doing it in house. I was going to suggest adjusting it yourself it's a fiddly pain but I would have thought they would have tried that first and the problem is the measurement and angle of the roof/windscreen and door gap. It's a shame they can't get it back to the factory to be looked at properly Sad

They may have to though if it's not sorted Twisted Evil having the door rubbing on the roof or pillar is obviously not acceptable Rolling Eyes
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Nick T



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Well I got it back yesterday. No fault found-nothing logged so it must be my imagination that I lost a days work because the blimmin thing wouldn't start Rolling Eyes It came back with a half hearted attempt at washing it and the obligitary extra scratches on the paintwork. Door not been sorted as it opens and closes with a slam, so the paintwork is still wearing. I couldn't stay and argue for fear of of going too far. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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RFT



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As per mike I would recommend a visit to hillendale they have bent over backwards to sort out the minor issues on mine. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper
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mse



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Been there in the past with the roof rack - its Censored , dont stand for it....i didnt - fit for purpose i remember stating

The defender must be fit for purpose and cant prevent you from using 3rd party parts like that.

Scanguage wont affect your warranty, thats like saying having an iphone plugged into the stereo means when it fails its not covered

Seal - ok that one could be argued, but just buy a replacement. Mike
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