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ken



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noworries4x4 wrote:
I love bright lights, hate groping round in the dark, i have got full HID upgrade on my P38 and they are extreamly good but i have said it before on here the 90 has got Cibe 10DE 7" lenses with piaa super white bulbs with piaa bulbs in the standard wipac Land Rover spots on main beam the whole upgrade less than £100


With you there about other options my D3's mainly had lightforce and the 240's on the A Bar were Mr. Green however I also bring in the equation current draw and a LED package wins hands down Thumbs Up
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yobbie wrote:
T1G UP wrote:
adafish wrote:
you have PM morea..


lots of smoke and mirrors surrounding these bloody lights!

Must be a large mark up. whens someone gonna offer up a decent discount we'll start a 1k all in and work our way down Thumbs Up


J W Speaker's are about $1000 in the US Whistle


if you are ordering from the US, make sure you get RHD versions Thumbs Up
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And that the fittings are for land rovers not jeeps Thumbs Up Russell
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Fittings there are none these lights use the standard bulb fitting and headlamp retaining ring real plug and play Thumbs Up
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yobbie wrote:
T1G UP wrote:
adafish wrote:
you have PM morea..


lots of smoke and mirrors surrounding these bloody lights!

Must be a large mark up. whens someone gonna offer up a decent discount we'll start a 1k all in and work our way down Thumbs Up


J W Speaker's are about $1000 in the US Whistle


and you can get the chrome ones as they are an option on Harley Davidsons now.
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bpman wrote:
yobbie wrote:
T1G UP wrote:
adafish wrote:
you have PM morea..


lots of smoke and mirrors surrounding these bloody lights!

Must be a large mark up. whens someone gonna offer up a decent discount we'll start a 1k all in and work our way down Thumbs Up


J W Speaker's are about $1000 in the US Whistle


if you are ordering from the US, make sure you get RHD versions Thumbs Up


And ECE compliants, not only DOT Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

IID Pro MV License
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yobbie wrote:


J W Speaker's are about $1000 in the US Whistle



YES they may well only be $1000 in the US. However we are NOT in the US

Bring them back/across from the States EVEN if you could get RHD for the UK, OK US is LHD like the rest of Europe, is it that simple?


The lights on sale in the US are approved for use in the US only and conform to SAE,

The international ECE Regulations for filament headlamps and for high-intensity discharge headlamps specify a beam with a sharp, asymmetric cutoff preventing significant amounts of light from being cast into the eyes of drivers of preceding or oncoming cars. Control of glare is less strict in the North American SAE beam standard contained in FMVSS / CMVSS 108.


J W Speaker USA handles US distribution and only supplies SAE approved product into its domestic market place

Mobile Centre administer the aftermarket distribution for J W Speaker for Europe, Russia, Middle East and West Asia and because of this agreement only supply ECE approved lamps. Mobile Centre appoint dealers such as ourselves , 4x4 Overlander and Alive to re sell their products.


Harley Davidson have a bespoke lamp made by J W Speaker which only carries North American approvals so cannot be legally used in Europe.

Mobile Centre and its agents will not warranty any US originated lamps – they will have to be returned to the supplying dealer nor will they be road legal in UK or in Europe

The price is what it is as we are 3500 miles away in a totally different economy, in a totally different VAT and import duty taxation regime.

So do you want to risk spending money on unwarranted, non approved goods, which may well fail the MOT and attract the attention of the police?

Brendan
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BigRuss



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leeds wrote:
yobbie wrote:


J W Speaker's are about $1000 in the US Whistle



YES they may well only be $1000 in the US. However we are NOT in the US

Bring them back/across from the States EVEN if you could get RHD for the UK, OK US is LHD like the rest of Europe, is it that simple?


The lights on sale in the US are approved for use in the US only and conform to SAE,

The international ECE Regulations for filament headlamps and for high-intensity discharge headlamps specify a beam with a sharp, asymmetric cutoff preventing significant amounts of light from being cast into the eyes of drivers of preceding or oncoming cars. Control of glare is less strict in the North American SAE beam standard contained in FMVSS / CMVSS 108.


J W Speaker USA handles US distribution and only supplies SAE approved product into its domestic market place

Mobile Centre administer the aftermarket distribution for J W Speaker for Europe, Russia, Middle East and West Asia and because of this agreement only supply ECE approved lamps. Mobile Centre appoint dealers such as ourselves , 4x4 Overlander and Alive to re sell their products.


Harley Davidson have a bespoke lamp made by J W Speaker which only carries North American approvals so cannot be legally used in Europe.

Mobile Centre and its agents will not warranty any US originated lamps – they will have to be returned to the supplying dealer nor will they be road legal in UK or in Europe

The price is what it is as we are 3500 miles away in a totally different economy, in a totally different VAT and import duty taxation regime.

So do you want to risk spending money on unwarranted, non approved goods, which may well fail the MOT and attract the attention of the police?

Brendan


Good job I didn't order any and send thought the internal post while I'm in the states next month Steve Russell
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yes Russ ... Rolling with laughter

having said that, who would look for a CE mark on the lenses ?

You could borrow mine for your MOT Thumbs Up
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bpman wrote:
yes Russ ... Rolling with laughter

having said that, who would look for a CE mark on the lenses ?

You could borrow mine for your MOT Thumbs Up


Or you could indeed borrow mine Whistle Russell
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well when someone rocks up with a sensible deal inc the led side lights etc im in.

then a group buy on Recaros!
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T1G UP wrote:
well when someone rocks up with a sensible deal inc the led side lights etc im in.

then a group buy on Recaros!


what's a sensible price ?

recaros - oh yes ! I used to have recaros in my Mk2 RS2000 - from Dennis Moody
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1k all in
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1k all in


Be interested if someone can come close to that! I have Led Sidelights/DRL & front indicators and they are about £200 now alone! But good luck Thumbs Up
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got to start somewhere.
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