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mathieu205gti



Member Since: 04 Sep 2018
Location: belgium
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Belgium 
3.2 TDCI transplatation project
Hello everybody, I'm Mathieu from Belgium. It is a long time I read many posts here about 3.2 conversion, thanks to the authors! Thumbs Up

I'will use this post to share you the progress of the project, and also ask you tip and tricks... Mr. Green
Sorry if my english spelling is not so good...

I bought a 3.2 transit that was running fine, and started to take engine and loom off.
I also bought a defender2.4 engine broken to retrieve some parts specific to the land rover configuration.

I will try to fit all this on my 2008 2.4 Defender Rolling Eyes

Here is some pics:

Getting out from the Transit:



installed on a wheel stand Mr. Green :



Loom and BCU:


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Ready for test on stand and slim down the loom:



The broken 2.4 for spare parts:
Post #962236 19th Aug 2022 10:45am
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mathieu205gti



Member Since: 04 Sep 2018
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Belgium 
Today... **** ELECTRICAL WIRING : Whistle

At first time I will run the engine with the Transit BCU, transponder, that will be the esaiest. At a second time I would like to make a direct communication between 10AS and the Transit engine ECU, but not sure it’ll be easy.

1) I’m looking for the Transit 3.2 wiring diagram, does some one has that, or at least the pinout of the ECU and BCU? Wink

2) Are the informations on the CAN BUS well read by The defender instrument cluster even if ther is no pairing between Transit ECU and Defender IPAC ? (RPM, coolant temp, ….). By the experience of Groky87 it seems that yes.
No conflics on the CAN BUS by adding a BCU ?

3) I try to understand how Defender immobiliser is working. I’ve read many topics and what is getting out is :

The 10AS (old green model) is triggering a signal when it decides to mobilise. Is this signal just a +12v ? I think it is a signal containing the « mobilisation » code, code that can be read on the Nanocom « MEMS code ». Than, the signal enters the IPAC (instrument cluster), and it is here that opinions takes differnet ways.

Some (and also the service manual) told the IPAC acts as gateway, transforming the « old type » signal from the 10AS to a comprehensive signal for the ECU. Does IPAC sends the code via CAN BUS ? I’m not sure. Does the IPAC modify signal before reexporting at pin 4 ? Also not sure because that don’t match with the BY PASS modification that someones have done to fix starting problems by unpluging pin 3 and 4 on the ipac and join them to do the continuity. With the BY PASS modification IPAC seems to have no role with the immobiliser process. So what is the exact role of the IPAC (instrument cluster) with the immobiliser ?

That was the brainstorming of the day Rolling Eyes Mr. Green

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Post #962242 19th Aug 2022 12:12pm
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
This sounds like a fantastic project..! I will be following this! Plenty of pictures and in-depth updates please. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #962245 19th Aug 2022 1:32pm
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Ranger 6



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United Kingdom 1988 Defender 90 V8 Petrol CSW Rimini Red
Watching with interest Thumbs Up 90 V8 CSW - 1988
Post #962390 21st Aug 2022 12:17pm
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mathieu205gti



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Front right lights loom is out 😜
The beginning is going slowly because of all the tape that is around the wiring loom.


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Post #962397 21st Aug 2022 1:51pm
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LJMARSDEN



Member Since: 08 Jun 2021
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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Other HT Java Black
This looks interesting. I believe someone here in the UK can provide the conversion already but, they haven't shared much info on it of course. 4.0 V8 Defender 90

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Post #962549 22nd Aug 2022 6:40pm
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mathieu205gti



Member Since: 04 Sep 2018
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Continuing to weak the loom of all undesired functions, but first little problem.

Late on the eavening when I have finished my work, i tried to strat the motor, and all was perfect, it crank and started almost immediately.

Next day, before touching the loom, I do an other test (as each time to be sure), the motor crank but takes long time to statrt (3-4 seconds). Checked diesel circuit and all grounds…

It seems I have a CAN-BUS issue.

Some times it start quickly, sometimes it’s a pain (6-7 seconds).

I’ve unpluged all CAN-BUS component exept BCU and ECM, checked all the connectors, now it is a little better (but not perfect).

I ‘ll check the 120 Ohms resistor of the CAN-BUS. Do you have some relevant informations on CAN-BUS wiring diagnostic ?



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Post #963265 29th Aug 2022 1:59pm
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diesel_jim



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Still good work though!
Post #963276 29th Aug 2022 4:41pm
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mathieu205gti



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Still working on the harness…

Central junction box is fully unwirered, and removed from the loom.
Now same job on the battery junction box.

All links to rear harness left and right are also removed. It begins to be lighter.
I’ll try to keep the cruise control function but not sure which info is mandatory for it works…
I think info from the abs (véhicule speed), brake and clutch pedal switch.



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Post #963890 3rd Sep 2022 2:26pm
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Nice work
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mathieu205gti



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Post #964643 11th Sep 2022 1:39pm
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diesel_jim



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Excellent work!!
Post #964644 11th Sep 2022 2:02pm
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AJC



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tremendous work
Post #964735 12th Sep 2022 11:17am
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JOW240725



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
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Post #964738 12th Sep 2022 11:45am
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big steve



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Montalcino Red
Looks good i have the complete engine and wiring loom ready to go in my Worksop for a rainy day
It’s a good conversion

If you speak to Dan pad more fro space he will build you a nice wireing loom 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
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