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| boxoftricks Member Since: 06 Feb 2019 Location: Home Counties Posts: 747   
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And your expectations buying a defender were.....
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13th Jul 2021 4:30pm |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283 
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I love the wording of the thread title.
OP has clearly had long experience of Land Rovers.   |
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13th Jul 2021 4:44pm |
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| Ryderoo Member Since: 28 Aug 2015 Location: South Oxfordshire Posts: 1666 
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How annoying
No consolation, it’s good to see the adblue filler in a suitable location, unlike the D5, under the bonnet. Pain in the a*s but back to the dealer for such a silly item to fail. Let’s hope it doesn’t have a semiconductor in it!!! Cheers Simon I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you 1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone 2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone 2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone 2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24 2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24 2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle |
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13th Jul 2021 4:45pm |
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| Balvaig Member Since: 19 Feb 2016 Location: Fife Posts: 730  
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Knowing how LR works with spares it will be probably at least two weeks, as it will need a complete new flap, sprayed to body colour.
Hopefully common sense will prevail and the missing bit can be sourced. |
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13th Jul 2021 6:21pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6605 
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The old D3/RRS1 problem!
 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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13th Jul 2021 6:25pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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I’ll be passing my local dealership tomorrow and then Taggarts Glasgow North on Thursday so will find out from one or the other what the supply situation is.
Martin - I never had this happen on any of my L320’s but on one of them the flap jammed closed which was embarrassing as it happened on a filling station forecourt. Fortunately a bit of force with the old style mis-fuelling tool released it. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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13th Jul 2021 6:49pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3395
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First time I’ve seen that. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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14th Jul 2021 10:24am |
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| SN Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: SK6 Posts: 729 |
I had this on both my D3's - central lock/unlock trick always sprung it open though - strangely always happeed when I was running on fumes Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history) |
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14th Jul 2021 11:37am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Well you would think it’s a simple repair wouldn’t you?
To replace just the rubber cover (about 10p) and the spring/sensor (probably 20p) I have to have a whole new internals for the filler area……….. filler surround, inner hinge and outer flap as in the picture Click image to enlarge While it’s in the sick bay for that I’ve asked them to fix the inoperative Auto Stop/Start that stopped working after the last OTA update (up to that installing it worked all the time except in mid winter when it was very cold when it doesn’t work anyway) , to find out why the navigation screen in the dash still isn’t showing the roads clearly in the night setting which was supposed to be cured in the last OTA update - receptionist’s reply is that the battery might not have high enough charge so they need the cat overnight to check the battery and carry out the software checks……. I also asked them to carry out an unscheduled/ out of schedule oil and oil filter change which they quoted £148 for after some “conversation” about whether the car needed one as the service due light isn’t showing. After an polite exchange that I wasn’t bothered about if an oil/filter change is due or not I just want to change them as the car is midway between scheduled services now and I don’t believe that the oil and filter are as efficient as the day that the car was delivered and don’t want to go to 2 years/ 21000 miles between changes in view of previous issue suffered by the 4 cylinder Ingenium engines in Evoque, Disco Sport and D5 that lead to engine failure……… and I’m paying for it anyway and they will make a bit of profit from doing the job too. Who trains these people to turn down things like oil and filter changes out of schedule that earn their employer a bit of profit? Is it strange that someone who actually owns the car (it isn’t leased or on a loan) wants to look after the engine and give it a fresh dose of lube and a clean filter? Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 14th Jul 2021 1:17pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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14th Jul 2021 1:11pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2647
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£148 seems quite cheap for a dealer oil and filter change!
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14th Jul 2021 1:17pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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That’s what I thought too, especially as it cannot be far off that just for the hard to get oil.
Will be interesting to see if they have to remove the metal underbody protection plates or do it by sucking the old oil out through the dipstick tube……. On my last RRS it was an extra hours Labour to remove the cladding beneath the engine and put it back - cannot have been a nice job as that car frequently went into deep mud which I couldn’t ever wash out……… Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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14th Jul 2021 1:19pm |
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| Simon Audi Member Since: 19 Nov 2020 Location: Newport Posts: 544
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£149 is cheap - 10L oil is that plus filter - BARGAIN...
I expect it will be sucked out. |
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14th Jul 2021 2:31pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Just checked and the iguide states that for the 2lt diesels an oil and filter change needs 7 ltrs of oil - using the most expensive 0w30 Castrol Edge Professional oil the car uses, on Amazon it’s £72 for a 5 ltr + 2x1ltr canisters next day delivery on Prime, no idea how much the filters are but they cannot be more than £20 a pop so say Labour is £140 an hour…………… they aren’t allowing much time to do a filter and oil change! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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14th Jul 2021 3:39pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17386 
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Er, no! I have owned Landrovers long enough (and modern enough) to expect the complete opposite, I'm afraid. It actually offends me that in these times when conservation, recycling and reuse, environmental damage and whole-life costs are so high on everyone's agenda that car manufactures use so many non-serviceable subassemblies. You used to be able to rebuld things like wiper motors and replace the brushes etc., now you bin the motor and fit a new one. Madness! This doesn't surprise me in the slightest, I'm afraid,
Does the outer flap need painting to match the car? |
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14th Jul 2021 4:12pm |
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