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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3384 |
Good write up
DEF consumption all depends on the owner, no two will consume the same. |
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12th Dec 2020 1:04pm |
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Gareth Member Since: 12 Dec 2011 Location: Bramhall Posts: 1092 |
Great write up Tim. Looking forward to joining the party soon. 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV
1966 S2a 109 aka Betsy 1968 S2a 88 aka Bob 2014 Jaaaag F Type 3.0 Supercharged. |
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12th Dec 2020 1:35pm |
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discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2526 |
Excellent write up Tim. Makes my blood boil to think that someone spat at your vehicle and to think it was a 110 driver makes it even worse. Total lack of respect. Defender 90XS SW
Mini Countryman Cooper S Morgan Plus 8 |
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12th Dec 2020 1:56pm |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 |
Gareth I think might have met up years ago on a weekend run at Weardale Offoad Centre by Mark Hatton, I travelled down in the 90 that ended up totally covered in mud after doing the Somme trench at Weardale - I certainly got a lots of stares diving home!
Something I forgot to mention - you want to do a long drive and this is one of the finest cars to do it in, it’s up there with a Range Rover for a comfortable and tranquil cabin on a long trip. No need to have to have forced stops every hour or so to protect your hearing or return the circulation to your right arm. Oh and a fold up arm rest like Range Rovers and D5 have would be one of the few really nice additions to the spec........ Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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12th Dec 2020 1:57pm |
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Gareth Member Since: 12 Dec 2011 Location: Bramhall Posts: 1092 |
Yes I remember it well Tim, in fact I have an album on Disco3.co.uk of the weekend. https://www.disco4.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1170
I was in my LWB 2a (Betsy) with my son and his mate. It was a bit cold! 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV 1966 S2a 109 aka Betsy 1968 S2a 88 aka Bob 2014 Jaaaag F Type 3.0 Supercharged. |
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12th Dec 2020 4:18pm |
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DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837 |
Re the moron that spat at you, there are some weird and twisted people out there.
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12th Dec 2020 5:11pm |
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90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2131 |
What kind of fecktard is out there.......
Nice to see you enjoy YOUR car regardless of others peoples views |
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12th Dec 2020 6:31pm |
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Tom_T Member Since: 08 Nov 2020 Location: Essex Posts: 87 |
Great write up. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with the fact that the new defender, whilst carrying over the name, could never really be a like for like replacement because one was designed post war and one was designed in the 21st century with all the modern rules and regulations we have to live with now. I’m really looking forward to taking delivery of mine and using it as an all round everyday car which will suit my lifestyle.
Buying an early production run of a brand new model will always have teething problems and it’s nice to see you having a pragmatic approach to this. I’ll be interested to see if anything changes after 10,000 miles and above! |
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12th Dec 2020 6:40pm |
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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3384 |
I don’t mind problems, every car has them, I don’t care what the German fan boys say. It’s how they’re dealt with that matters.
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12th Dec 2020 9:51pm |
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Fat Cog Member Since: 19 Mar 2012 Location: Oxfordshire & Devon Posts: 502 |
Very interesting & honest review...far better than the average YouTube rubbish...thanks Tim.
I've said this before on the forum, the new Defender, at the moment at least, isn't for me (although I'm looking forward to seeing a Commercial 90 in the flesh) BUT to echo Tim's comments about the two being incomparable, I had a timely reminder about post-war carry over design when I had to implement an emergency stop at 60mph when an Ocado van pulled straight out in front of me on the rather undulating A436 near Stow on the Wold...well, shall we say it was a thrilling experience for a variety of reasons! My last of the line 2016 XS 90 is scarily now coming up for 5 years old so at some point I may well need to think about relegating it to first reserve with my Wolf being relegated to second reserve & to be honest their are few options available to someone like me (& many others on this forum) who have had a lifetime driving, owning & loving Defenders (& I include series vehicles in this), apart from the G-Wagon (which I've always liked but can't afford) I see the new Defender being a natural transition & I think the new 90 will win lots of fans, it just might take time, but it'll get there I'm sure. I just wish that Land Rover would produce the Commercial variant without a touchscreen in sight... Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains |
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13th Dec 2020 9:47am |
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Fellrunner Member Since: 28 Sep 2014 Location: Wandering Posts: 257 |
A detailed and very interesting read.
As others have said, the idiot who spat on your car!? Utter madness. Teething issues aside (I'll come back to this later) they seem to be a very capable vehicle indeed. What I just don't understand is why they are required in LR's lineup; given that the Defender is now a direct competitor to just about every other model in its range; they are broadly all extremely capable off road but so plush that essentially very few people are going to use them as I think many use the old Defender. The answer, at least in part, has to be to trade off the Defender name and of course that's completely understandable as it's a company that seeks to make a profit. But, and here's the rub for me with this new and very capable replacement. Firstly, it has a very different image to the old Defender; I've seen many more blinged up fully tinted versions than not - Top Gear using a gold wrapped version as car of the year said it all to me. Secondly, and as someone who will be changing cars next year, why buy a new Defender when, for admittedly a little more, I can get in to a RR. It's a nicer place to be, and frankly I'm not going to use a new Defender (given how lovely they are) for anything I wouldn't use a RR for. And that brings me to the teething issues, I don't think it's good enough (I recognise that most new cars will have some issues). But it just doesn't surprise when it comes to LR (just like their atrocious after sales service doesn't surprise). So, for me at least next year, it's going to be an end of the line L405 and keeping my old Defender which gets well and truly used. |
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13th Dec 2020 11:07am |
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DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837 |
Would be interesting to see what reception the L663 would have gotten from old Defender peeps if it was called, say, the LR Endurance. Or the LR Discovered.
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13th Dec 2020 11:40am |
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Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3743 |
Good report and I enjoy your updates,
The idiot that spat at it..... why? Good to hear its now running as it should without trips to the dealers... I like the look of them and there are a few out there that are growing on me with the correct spec / wheels etc. For me given I have the 110, I didn't see it replacing that, its a different type of car. So kept the 110 and bought a Full Fat RR. So now depending on our journey needs. 1) Very basic in the Series 3 (great for green lanes and shows) 2) Slightly less basic in the 110 (Our Lakes / Scotland / Camping / lugging stuff truck) 3) Luxury in the RR Interestingly the RR so far is averaging 36 mpg and the other day I had 39 mpg out of it. Amazing for the size of car. I've not had cars with those figures for many years Keep your reports and modifications going I enjoy reading them (and thanks for your recommendations on the NC500) Merry Christmas |
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13th Dec 2020 11:43am |
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GSKM Member Since: 22 Aug 2020 Location: Shropshire Posts: 5 |
Nice review, thank you Tim. It just reinforces that I want the new Defender as my next car. I can’t believe that anybody is so stupid to spit at your car. I know some people don’t like it as a Defender replacement because you can’t cut it to pieces and add a cherry picker to the back but why spit. Myself, I didn’t buy an old Defender as it would be used as a family car and it’s not suited to my daily commute, but the new one does everything I want.
Incidentally, I bought your old Evoque wheels off you. They are now sat quite happily on my DS. Gav. 1983 110 2286 petrol hardtop. 2015my Freelander 2018my Discovery Sport. |
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19th Dec 2020 6:27pm |
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