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dorsetsmith



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TD5 90 rear X member replacement
OK i need too replace cross member on 03 TD5 HT and need to remove the tank and the only way i can see is too remover the tub or tub floor as tank can not drop out under from chases or am i missing sum thing
Post #832024 19th May 2020 5:41pm
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jrule



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United Kingdom 2000 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Oslo Blue
You can do without removing the tub although is a bit of a pig of a job especially if bolts corroded. You have to remove anti roll bar and tank guard and then should be able to manoeuvre the tank out. The tank guard has fixing nuts in the rear cross member and also to chassis legs from memory. It is easier if you have access from above and often people cut out an access panel to the fuel pump so you can disconnect loom and lines more easily.
Post #832032 19th May 2020 6:27pm
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jrule



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United Kingdom 2000 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Oslo Blue
This is quite helpful for guard removal

https://yrmit.co.uk/workshops/land-rover-d...placement/
Post #832035 19th May 2020 6:30pm
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dorsetsmith



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now that makes a lot sens,fitting and bolt it up from out side Whistle
Post #832192 20th May 2020 12:49pm
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grafty99



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
I have dropped my tank recently. It's very tight and awkward but it slides forward towards the axle then half way down before you can remove the pipes and plugs Thumbs Up 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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Post #832226 20th May 2020 3:54pm
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dorsetsmith



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manage to remover fuel tank cradle but cut one side and will remove captive nut and nut bolt back in place

next thing remove tank very tight and awkward its five o'clock and time pint or two Thumbs Up
Post #832233 20th May 2020 4:30pm
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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
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1990 Vogue SE
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Post #832243 20th May 2020 5:13pm
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dorsetsmith



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tank out in three moves Thumbs Up new hoses order for tank vent 6 mm 1/2 m long and 3/4 1/2 m long next have look at loom from the N side rear O that`s not good out with box wire split conduit and tools 2 hr later this pasty o clock 89 F time for brake
Post #832390 21st May 2020 1:24pm
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lightning



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Thirty one years old so it’s not done badly.
And l bet it’s worked hard for many of those years as well. An ordinary van would have been scrapped twenty years ago.
Post #832404 21st May 2020 3:03pm
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dorsetsmith



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up date has been bit slow to date as needed more work to rebuild both chassis leg so that i can use the new cross member that i have will post pic late to day work in progress




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as you can see metal moth has been at it



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will have to make two ^ chassis box section work in progress
Post #834187 30th May 2020 6:44am
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
That going to take a few hours to sort! No legs on replacement cross member then? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
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Post #834290 30th May 2020 6:27pm
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dorsetsmith



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no and good job to had to faecal both sides to work with ware metal moth had made holes in the chasse legs

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Post #834296 30th May 2020 6:38pm
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Oldowner



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Aintree Green
Well done, I didn’t think anyone else replaces the cross member the proper way without resorting to “crossmember with extensions” bodgery

I had a supply of the triangular closing plates in one of your photos from the manufacturer at one point as these are unavailable to purchase separately.
Post #834302 30th May 2020 7:39pm
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dorsetsmith



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that right now priced £ 200 a side but out stock will be making the replacement ones
Post #834303 30th May 2020 7:46pm
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
Did a crossmember replacement for a friend. Decided to take the tub off, as the top was coming off anyway to attend to the cappings. With the tub off, access is much better. He had purchased KVB000290G from Paddock, that comes without legs.
Indeed, I could not find the top webs between the cross member and the chassis rails, so those were made inhouse from a 2mm sheet. templates were taken to copy the folds and holes locations.
Similarly, there are 2 trapezoidal plates at the bottom just between the chassis rails and the crossmember. These are welded in flat and then the edges hammered around the chassis before completing the weld.

Measurements for the crossmember location were taken relative to the tub support bracket and A frame crossmember.

If i had to do it again (hope not as it is a pig of a job) i would do as much welding as possible with the fuel tank cradle in place and fully tightened, as after i finished, I found that the cradle holes did not align perfectly with the holes next to the roll bar brackets. Holes at crossmember however aligned perfectly. Not sure if the welding distorted a bit the rails, or the sanblasting and galvanizing of the cradle warped the cradle.

End result was very satisfying though. Not possible to detect that the crossmember was ever replaced as all factory welds were re done. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #834307 30th May 2020 8:38pm
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