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DSC-off

Member Since: 16 Oct 2014
Location: North East
Posts: 1445

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

blackwolf wrote:
The more I see of the people getting the prototypes the more I understand why the whole Landrover brand is now so unappealing to me.

15th Feb 2020 3:39pm

DSC-off

Member Since: 16 Oct 2014
Location: North East
Posts: 1445

J77 wrote:
Tim in Scotland wrote:
He could post stuff of relevance to most of the buyers like how many oil changes he’s had due to oil dilution and how many regenerations the DPF has had to do....... but I suppose that would be bad publicity from the Director of PR - not the truth which is a slightly hard thing for PR guys to grasp.

I don’t think this will affect the new Defender, my D5 with the 3.0 (single turbo not the now fitted twin turbo from the RRS) engine suffered badly but my Velar 2.0 D240 has went the full 2 years before asking for its service. If it had the D180 then I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole, but the twin turbo D200/240 should be good, though one known issue is balancer shaft issues with the 240 though again mines been fine.

It's all to do with the positioning of the DPF and the vehicle platform:
The D7a Velar has a close coupled DPF and should be less of a problem
The D7u RRS and D5 have a medium coupled DPF and are more at risk of oil dilution.
The new Defender is on the D7u platform, wether JLR re-engineered the emissions system to overcome the issue remains to be seen.
JLRs own explanation to their sales people,

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15th Feb 2020 3:52pm

Smilesapart

Member Since: 28 Sep 2013
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 735

DSC-off wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
The more I see of the people getting the prototypes the more I understand why the whole Landrover brand is now so unappealing to me.

+1

Ooh gosh!! harsh but fair, harsh but fair

15th Feb 2020 4:31pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

I didn't know getting to Courchevel was a major expedition...

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Richard Agnew (@theragers) Tweeted:

Autoroute rendezvous with the wonderfully orange ‘08 #G4challenge fleet. Thanks @border26 for the photo 👍
PS1: I drove those cars across the Gobi in ‘08 for the event recce
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16th Feb 2020 8:00am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2661

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

DSC-off wrote:
The new Defender is on the D7u platform, wether JLR re-engineered the emissions system to overcome the issue remains to be seen...

LOL, knowing JLR, I'll bet momey that they didn't

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16th Feb 2020 8:16am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17610

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Who says the spirit of the Camel Trophy is dead?

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16th Feb 2020 8:23am

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

He’s only a PR guy trying to be hip for his 12 year old daughter - bet he’s just like the Dad in the long running VW Tiguan TV ad. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

16th Feb 2020 8:27am

jomara

Member Since: 26 Oct 2009
Location: Lanarkshire
Posts: 1790

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

All I can think of when I see Richard Agnews name is the meltdown he had over the leaking of the new Defender dash

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2022 110 D250 XS Edition - Gone
2024 110 D250 X-Dynamic HSE

16th Feb 2020 11:59am

groaner

Member Since: 20 Aug 2019
Location: Bondi Junction
Posts: 21

Do I need to buy some skinny pants so I can drive one?

17th Feb 2020 12:44am

Ecco

Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 280

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Galway Green

Quote:
Do I need to buy some skinny pants so I can drive one?

..thats only one of the requirements. In order to comply, you have to be hipster, you must sit in some famous coffee shop and browse some fashion web sites on your Apple MacBook Pro, at least 3 times a day, and you have to be politically correct..

Additional note:
You have to figure out, where to fit your mr twinky down there, once you hop in to tiny skinny pants, otherwise someone may be offended and therefore that will disqualify you.

17th Feb 2020 3:15am

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