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Steve_overland



Member Since: 14 Oct 2018
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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Chawton White
Eberspacher fuel pick up
Hi all I have tried searching but the answer cannot be found.... I am fitting a Eberspacher airheater and want to T into the fuel line ... but which one, big line or small line.... oh and why, or why not each one....??

Thanks in advance @steve_overland on Insta.
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Post #803656 26th Nov 2019 4:40pm
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wyvern



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
its probably easier to use the scavenger from the fuel filler ... done this on 2 of my 110’s and its never been an issue - with a safety feature that it wont run the tank dry nor introduce air into the system ....
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Post #803659 26th Nov 2019 4:46pm
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Personally I would drop the tank and fit the dedicated pickup to avoid potential problems with engine fuel supply. T piece just introduces another join and weakness. Cheers

James
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Post #803667 26th Nov 2019 5:03pm
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ickle



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France 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White
As James says but carefully cut a hole in the rear floor - easy to do and great immediate access to pick up and sender should you need to.

Keith
Post #803673 26th Nov 2019 5:32pm
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epictrail



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 110 Td5 HT Chawton White
I have this spliced into the fill pipe.

https://www.butlertechnik.com/installation...252a-p1291
Post #803679 26th Nov 2019 5:48pm
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chopcat



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Wales 2000 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Java Black
The standpipe in the fuel filler works a treat on my TD5 .
CC
Post #803695 26th Nov 2019 6:58pm
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Steve_overland



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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Chawton White
Hi all sorry should have said. Whichever is a 300 TDI and I definitely want to T in but which one is best??

Cheers for the answers so far @steve_overland on Insta.
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Post #803696 26th Nov 2019 7:00pm
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jst



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I would take it off the return from fip to tank. follow leak off pipes to banjo on back of fip and go from there. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #803723 26th Nov 2019 9:14pm
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sako243



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Wales 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White
I can't claim credit for this idea but saw it on Jon's ambulance at Seven Sisters (FridgeFreezer over on LR4x4). It was on a 4.6 petrol but the idea holds true for any vehicle.

He teed into the return line from the engine and installed a 1l catch-can with the input and output both at the top of the catch-can. The pickup went to the bottom of the catch-can. The beauty of the system was that you never needed to remember to fill it up as simply running the engine cause it to fill up. You could never run the vehicle out of fuel because it only pulled the fuel from the 1l tank. If you needed to top it up you simply turned on the engine and it would refill (with a 4.6 that could be quite fast!).

He worked out and tested that the 1l (I think I've got the capacity correct) would run his heater flat-out for 24h which was more than enough for his requirements. The catch-can was installed on the inside of the chassis rail near the gearbox / transfer-box area so was tucked up nice and out of the way from off-road usage.

Beautifully elegant solution. I'll see if I can find reference to it on the forum. Ed
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Post #803731 26th Nov 2019 9:46pm
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Steve_overland



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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Chawton White
Sounds ingenious, will have to have a look at that. Why is the return better than the feed, not questioning it, just trying to understand?? @steve_overland on Insta.
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Post #803768 27th Nov 2019 8:40am
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sako243



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Wales 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White
It'll cause far fewer issues in the return line. If you put it in the feed line then you're more likely to introduce air into the system. Some systems (I think Jon's does) have higher pressure in-tank pumps to deliver the fuel that's guzzled by the V8.

If you imagine pulling up to camp, turning off vehicle, you've now got a nice full catch-can. Turn on the heater and empty it, either you're going to introduce a vacuum and might pull more fuel through from the tank (therefore potentially running it dry). Or it won't pull it from the tank but you're now left with a 2l cavity filled with air which is going to be pulled through first. Ed
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Post #803820 27th Nov 2019 4:14pm
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jst



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1l for 24hrs on full chat. I would check that. my website coolant and air heaters use more than that. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #803874 27th Nov 2019 8:59pm
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sako243



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Wales 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White
Was going off memory but I did come across some mention of it on LR4x4 and it looks to have been a 2l catch-can. May not have been full-chat but plenty to keep the ex-RAF 129 ambulance nice and toasty. Ed
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Post #803877 27th Nov 2019 9:05pm
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jst



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Swirl pot or catch can is a good idea. As is running them off aux tanks or botton of through flow additional tanks. On tick over once up to temp the fuel consumption is pretty minimal on webastos Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #803913 28th Nov 2019 7:38am
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jst



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Thermo top c, 5kw, 0.3 to .6l an hour. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #803914 28th Nov 2019 7:41am
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