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Snowy90

Member Since: 23 Feb 2015
Location: Surrey
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2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Fuji White

Solved! Garage lights wiring

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OK I have found this site full of knowledgeable people and so i thought i would set a little challenge in case there were any sparkies out there.

I have bought a set of industrial florescent lights for a small spray booth project in my garage.

I know i should seek an electrician but i thought as they are just replacing a standard batten style strip light it would be a case of simply swapping them over.

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However wired it up and nothing, it has power but no light. thinking they were knackered i popped a plug on the other one and plugged it in and nothing, now it could be that they are both knackered but even i am not that unlucky so its probably something i am doing wrong.

For reference they are Petrel series 7 luminaires and the original lights were simply wired in and out with 2.5mm cable back to the consumer unit.

Any advice greatfully received.

Thanks

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5th Nov 2018 11:51am

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

back in 16th 17th days wiring using 3 phase 3 wire for single phase

RED OR BROWN - LIVE YELLOW OR BLACK - EARTH (SLEEVED GREEN/YELLOW) BLUE OR GREY - NEUTRAL (SLEEVED BLUE)

5th Nov 2018 12:41pm

jrule

Member Since: 10 Aug 2015
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 302

those are some lights for a garage! Looking at the spec they have a carrier tray that takes the tubes. I would check that that is correctly installed and you are getting voltage to the fittings in the first instance. Are the ballasts correctly installed and the lamps/tubes working?

5th Nov 2018 1:02pm

Snowy90

Member Since: 23 Feb 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 482

Hi

Sorry for my ignorance may i ask what does this mean??? "back in 16th 17th days wiring using 3 phase 3 wire for single phase"

I havent opened them up, screw on end caps are proving tough to open but I guess if I have wired them up ok.

Brown to Red
Blue to Blue
Green/Yellow to yellow

Then I guess next step is to check inside!

5th Nov 2018 1:57pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8581

Well they are not cheap lights, depending on size over a grand.

Now a quick search shows 3 wires + earth on spec sheet here with 230 volts standard PLUS other voltages.

First think is to check the specification plate and see what voltage it is.

16/17th are editions for electrical regulations which sparkies adhere to.

Brendan

5th Nov 2018 2:20pm

Scoobeenut

Member Since: 04 Mar 2015
Location: West London
Posts: 310

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black

Well they are Petrel Series 7 hazardous area Ex d fluorescent fittings so require a 230v supply so should work as you have had them connected. Maybe tubes need replacing or possible starter inside the fittings.

5th Nov 2018 2:21pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

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SWA wire you are showing manly used for 3 phase 3 wire 415 volt CCT , But also used single phase 240 v

and wire used

older wire---------------------------------------- newer wire

RED LIVE --------------------------------------- OR BROWN - LIVE

YELLOW EARTH (SLEEVED GREEN/YELLOW)----- OR BLACK - EARTH (SLEEVED GREEN/YELLOW)

BLUE NEUTRAL ------------------------------------ OR GREY - NEUTRAL (SLEEVED BLUE)

this is used as elect industry stranded

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5th Nov 2018 2:24pm

Snowy90

Member Since: 23 Feb 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 482

Hmm

So end cap removed!

Spot the problem! Winner gets a smartie!

They are great lights ive been looking for ages and these come up on ebay! massively heavy but look great.

Thanks for your help on this one.

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5th Nov 2018 2:39pm

Scoobeenut

Member Since: 04 Mar 2015
Location: West London
Posts: 310

Well yes it helps if they are plugged in 😄

5th Nov 2018 2:59pm

Snowy90

Member Since: 23 Feb 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 482

Danah!

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5th Nov 2018 3:01pm

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