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V8Smith



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Wet carpets near doors.....?
We have a Puma 110 and Ive just noticed the carpets are getting wet, mainly close to the doors. Now I assume this is the seals but is this a known issue and is there anything I can do to rectify it?

Thanks in advance, cheers

Mike
Post #644238 15th Aug 2017 7:45pm
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Yes Defender's are well know to leak.

It could be leaking through your windscreen and running down there. If you have a pre-2011 car then you'll have the old type bottom door seals, which are basically an L shaped bit of rubber rivetted to the door with a little bit of foam stuck on either end - you're lucky if these keep light out let alone water or draughts!

There is a revised lower door seal available which you can retrofit after drilling two more holes in each door. These offer a much better seal.
Post #644268 15th Aug 2017 8:37pm
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V8Smith



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Thanks yes our car is pre 2011 so will look to change the seals, thanks. Anyone know the best place or is it best to just go with original Land Rover parts?

Regards
Mike
Post #644275 15th Aug 2017 8:52pm
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
I think Land Rover are the only ones doing the redesigned seals at the moment.

I think they were about £25 each, but well worth doing, they keep the draughts out as well as water and improve the cabin noise too.
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greenlandrover



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Looking at http://cat.lrparts.ru/ part numbers seem to be: -

Right Hand
New: LR024954
Old: CFE102981

Left Hand
New: LR024955
Old: CFE102991

Bottom
New: LR029309
Old: CFE500670

Also need AWR3140 (foam) and ALR6280 (pop rivet)

Assume parts for older VINs are the leakier ones?

Looks like Britpart do one for less than £20. Genuine ones seem to be upwards of £50 depending where you go.

I think Nakatanenga also do a higher spec one too?


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Post #644287 15th Aug 2017 9:39pm
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proloForêt



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I had this same problem wet carpet near door. I cure by parking when it rain with back of car lower than front on my sloped driveway. If i park nose down = wet. Bum down = dry. Fixed.
Post #644288 15th Aug 2017 9:40pm
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
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Also need AWR3140 (foam) and ALR6280 (pop rivet)


You don't need any of those with the new type seals. They come with clips and the design removes the need for the bits of foam.

The new lower seals for the rear doors are handed, however the front one will fit either side.

The new lower seals will fit with the original type top seals.
Post #644297 15th Aug 2017 10:00pm
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Grenadier



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Re: Wet carpets near doors.....?
V8Smith wrote:
We have a Puma 110 and Ive just noticed the carpets are getting wet, mainly close to the doors. Now I assume this is the seals but is this a known issue and is there anything I can do to rectify it?

Thanks in advance, cheers

Mike


I think my (yet to be addressed) leak comes from the windscreen frame-to-bulkhead seal. It then leaks down the lower side of the A-pilar until it hits the door hinge before dripping off the door hinge roughly where the accelerator pedal is. Same both sides. I repeat, 'I think' this is where the footwell leaks come from. But the bolts by the windscreen and the door hinge are always wet when it's raining.

Is the water ingress when stationary or moving? If the former, you'd have to ask if the lower seal on the door is the problem given rain can't (normally) travel upwards. Mine does not leak whilst driving, just when stationary and when the windscreen frame is exposed to the rain, but not when covered.

May be worth checking as I think it is a common problem Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
Post #644312 16th Aug 2017 5:41am
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greenlandrover



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This stuff is good a curing leaks.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00JQ6XHWC

Obviously it's not going to fix a problem where there's a big gap due to perished or badly fitted seal/gasket.
Post #644327 16th Aug 2017 7:13am
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Balvaig



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Also check the main door seal itself, particularly at the door strap. A deformed seal here will let in water. if not too deformed you can ease it off and stretch it into better shape.
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Grenadier



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greenlandrover wrote:
This stuff is good a curing leaks.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00JQ6XHWC

Obviously it's not going to fix a problem where there's a big gap due to perished or badly fitted seal/gasket.


Could have used that when I did my charity bike ride last year Shocked Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
Post #644373 16th Aug 2017 9:54am
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greenlandrover



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Yes that stuff always raises a smile when friends spot it in the shelf! Laughing
Post #644384 16th Aug 2017 10:33am
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V8Smith



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So looking at the site, its telling me for the front doors I need two of part No LR029309 for the two front doors, then it tells me I also need, LR029307 and LR029308 for the rear doors

So then do I also need LR024954 & LR024955? As these were mentioned by Greenlandrover above

Just want to make sure I get what I need, as carpets are wet and don't want the carpets to get mouldy

Cheers
Mike
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Balvaig



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Would recommend that you try and trace the leak before spending money on seals. There are many potential ares to leak and it is worth spraying the front/ side of the car with a hose and trying to see where the water is entering. If you google "Landrover water ingress manual" you will find a PDF which identifies each leak point and the remedial action.
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
I think on my 110, its leaking via the door card. Escapes out the bottom of the card and onto the edge of the carpet. 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
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