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ChrisDefender



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Small spot of rust – any advice please
As a fairly new Defender owner I would be grateful of how to tackle a small spot of rust before it gets any worse.

I have a small spot where the bulkhead, just lower than the foam seal for the windscreen pillar. Its on the inside, behind the rubber door seal.

Please can anyone tell me the best way to stop it getting any worse and what I can use to prevent more patches developing in this areas Sad

Many thanks in advance.



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Post #570852 14th Oct 2016 4:32pm
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Zagato
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What year is your truck?

You will have to investigate further, scrape back the rust, pull back the door seal if needs be, hopefully it is outside in rather than inside coming out! If it is just surface rust on the outside, scrape off as much rust as you can, treat rust by acid converting it, e.g. Jenollite, Ku Rust, Fertan etc they are all much the same for this small patch then touch up with colour then laquer on top....

If it is coming from the inside out then that's another story Shocked
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foxyred



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England 1994 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Montalcino Red
judging by the rust running at the side of double skin, id say you have found the start of a rusted out bulkhead corner. Id put my money on rusting from the inside !
Post #570892 14th Oct 2016 7:41pm
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mikeh501



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Deffo rusting from inside. Get it rubbed down rust killed and painted asap.

Next get the bulkhead treated internally with dinitrol ml3125.

Both easy jobs. Get it done as soon as you can, there will be more you can't see....
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Wandathe110



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It'll be worse than you think but tackle it now, ( doesn't look that bad ) i was going to repair what i thought was a salvageable bulk head until i removed it, seems it had rusted from the inside out, it had already had footwell repairs and the pillars were shot and full of bog the top corners were holy ( at least they should of been blessed and buried ) but when i removed it it was full of crust nowt descent to weld to .. Repair yours properly and save it
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Christian1402



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Mine looks similar to this. Where would the best place be to get access to the inside of the bulkhead to apply Dinitrol?
Post #570995 15th Oct 2016 10:52am
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
I keep mine topped up by removing the top door hinge bolt and applying through there. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
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Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #570996 15th Oct 2016 11:00am
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Zagato
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Shocking on a circa 8 year old motor. If only Defenders were treated early by owners all this could be prevented. As well as taking out the top hinge bolt, treat the length of the A post top to bottom with a 360 degree extension nozzle from Dinitrol from the bottom of the A post where there is a little access hole. Thumbs Up
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mikeh501



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Take the top door hinge off and blast up and down. Also take out the blanking plug near the wipers and go left and right. Ensure you use dinitrol ml3125. This stuff is very thin and mists up nicely so it gets into every nook and cranny. I'd be tempted to spray some dinitrol rc900 in there first to convert any rust especially around the inside of the effected area.

Going from the bottom of the bulkhead channel near the hinges is normally full of crud.
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ChrisDefender



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thanks for all the replies chaps.

I have to say for a complete novice this sounds like a disaster and fills me with dread!

Guess I need to start looking into this as soon as I can. Will need to find help somewhere though as I have no skills or kit at all.

Cheers all, I may well be back asking more questions.

Cheers.

Sorry, forgot to answer the question, its a Jan 2011.


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familymad



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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
So it's still under warranty. Get it back to a dealer before Jan 2017 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
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ChrisDefender



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Hi Family mad,

right, didn't realise that. Not very clued up on all this, can I take it to any dealer as the one I got it from is hundreds of miles away Sad

Cheers

Chris
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familymad



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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
They have a 6year Anti corrison warranty. Yours was Jan 2011 from the post so yes, any LR dealer. 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
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ChrisDefender



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Ah, great thank you, I will look into that as well then.

Cheers all, much appreciated Smile
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mikeh501



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If your going to keep it, then you had better start getting familiar with them. It really isnt difficult nor require a huge amount of tools. Garages, especially main dealers wont be interested in these bits of jobs keeping it looking tidy. You might be lucky with your warranty this time, but there will be a next - inevitable in defender ownership tbh.

Be interested in what the dealer says they will do about this. Id ask for a new bulkhead Very Happy If they get the body shop to tart it up, it wont last 2 years before its back. It needs preventive maintenance.
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