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Welkman



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dinitrol on older chassis with surface rust?
Hello, I have read through the topics on dinitrol treatment and they all seem to be aimed at protecting new chassis. I am not sure on the best way forward with my 110 chassis. It is solid but with lots of surface rust. I know you need to jet wash it thoroughly and then let it dry for a week or two but I am not sure if I should be painting the exposed chassis parts before applying the dinitrol. I could do this with some POR30 or similar but would never get to the whole chassis with the body in place.

Anyone done similar?



Thanks
Post #535351 28th May 2016 8:55am
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dgardel



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high pressure clean, Dinitrol convrust900 (rust converter primer) and then dinitrol wax Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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Post #535385 28th May 2016 1:38pm
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Tommo



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 Black LE Java Black
Or bilthamber UB wax direct onto chassis for prolonged protection, has very good longevity and protection against road salt Very Happy
Post #535448 28th May 2016 5:34pm
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Welshsurferdude



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Buzzweld CIO. Its the same stuff they use on the oil rigs in the north sea so it'll last on a defender chassis Smile

Seem to recall it stops rust too. not sure of the ins and out but if you are on fb, find buzzweld (Craig Jones) and give him a message, he is quite active on there Thumbs Up

Just did my rear X member this afternoon with no prep and it looks good Smile with a knackered brush too lol


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Post #535459 28th May 2016 6:26pm
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jaygti



Member Since: 04 Nov 2012
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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
I jet washed my chassis, then wire brushed the worst bits of rust, then rinsed it off quickly again.
When it was dry I put rust converter on before treating it. 2002 td5 90 county hardtop
Post #535478 28th May 2016 7:48pm
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MartinK



Member Since: 02 Mar 2011
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
So many options, so much advice...

I use a product called Fertan
http://www.fertan.co.uk/

great product seems to kill the rust. The Dinitrol after

Seems to keep the rust at bay for years with the odd top-up of Dinitrol Thumbs Up Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #535479 28th May 2016 7:49pm
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nitram17



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Where did you ger your fertan from!i can only find small bottles!
Post #535491 28th May 2016 8:20pm
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custom90



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Kurust is the option I used, works well.
Post #535500 28th May 2016 8:47pm
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Nidge



Member Since: 27 Jan 2008
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Ireland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Cairns Blue
Welshsurferdude wrote:
Buzzweld CIO. Its the same stuff they use on the oil rigs in the north sea so it'll last on a defender chassis Smile

Seem to recall it stops rust too. not sure of the ins and out but if you are on fb, find buzzweld (Craig Jones) and give him a message, he is quite active on there Thumbs Up

Just did my rear X member this afternoon with no prep and it looks good Smile with a knackered brush too lol


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I've heard good reports about buzzweld too, so I thought I'd give it a go on my current rebuild, but he wanted £ 35 to post a litre to Ireland Shocked
Some Uk companies must think Ireland is the other side of the world Rolling with laughter
Post #535549 29th May 2016 5:41am
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wyvern



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
Welshsurferdude wrote:
Buzzweld CIO. Its the same stuff they use on the oil rigs in the north sea so it'll last on a defender chassis Smile


You obviously havent seem my oil platform .... that is not a good recommendation Rolling with laughter Whistle Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
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Post #535564 29th May 2016 6:59am
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Anderzander



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I've just been using phosphoric acid diluted into water, which is the active ingredient in most rust converters - seems to be working ok.
Post #535573 29th May 2016 7:47am
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MartinK



Member Since: 02 Mar 2011
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
MartinK wrote:
So many options, so much advice...

I use a product called Fertan
http://www.fertan.co.uk/

great product seems to kill the rust. The Dinitrol after

Seems to keep the rust at bay for years with the odd top-up of Dinitrol Thumbs Up


On their website: http://www.fertan.co.uk/Buy%20Fertan%20products%20here.htm

1, 5 or 50 litre packs available... Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

They also list a stockiest in your area:
Storrar Marine Ltd 181 Coast Road Newcastle upon Tyne NE7 7RR 0191 2661037 Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #535595 29th May 2016 10:07am
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nitram17



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Thanks Martin
Post #535596 29th May 2016 10:15am
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CDN38



Member Since: 14 Nov 2014
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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 SW Bonatti Grey
I went through this process this past winter.

It''s all contained in my my renovation thread (page 5 in particular)

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40792-60.html

2000 Td5 with lots of surface rust on the frame. I did a detailed cleaning job on the compete underside. Hot water pressure wash with cleaner, then wire-cup all the surface rust, followed by POR15 cleaner, metal prep and paint, then Dinitrol.

I need to complete the renovation thread, as the truck is complete now (just been too busy to get to finishing the post, but this may get me onto it!). I have been very happy with the result, and of course like any job of this type, the more prep work you put in, the better the result will be.

Photos below are the rear frame after removing the fuel tank.

• pressure washed

• cleaned and peeped with POR 15 Metal Prep

• after 2 coats of POR 15 before Dinitrol


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 it's a Landrover thing...

my renovation thread:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40792.html
Post #535691 29th May 2016 5:23pm
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Welkman



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Thanks guys loads of great advice. I will get on it in the next few weeks and give an update. I have already purchased the Di nitrol kit so I was more concerned with the prep needed before application. I will go for some kind of rust converter then a coat of chassis paint then dinitrol.
Post #535906 30th May 2016 4:40pm
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