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walfy



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I have an aux tank fitted so get an extra 30L give or take. Always give the 110 a quick rock to get it to burp, can then squeeze another couple of litres in 110 D250 SE HT
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Post #523139 11th Apr 2016 6:13pm
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Teario



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A friend of mine does this. I think he puts in more than a tenner but I know he never fills it. His reasoning is that you're paying to carry the weight of additional fuel around so never fill it to the top.

Personally I don't think his theory stands up. I just brim it and pay the price, unless on the motorway as others have stated.
Post #523147 11th Apr 2016 6:28pm
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Rashers



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I usually only stick £10 in if I am forced to fill up at one of those overly expensive forecourts (motorway service areas, some on A roads, you must have them near you). It was what one of my ex-colleagues used to call a 'Splash and Dash'.
I know people who get the jitters when their tank is a quarter empty. I expect an Aygo quarter empty would struggle to get a teners worth of fuel in it. In my experience there is a proportion of those £10 forecourt fillers that are not hard up but just plain tight. The attitude of 'better in my bank account than in the garages' Rolling Eyes
Post #523150 11th Apr 2016 6:32pm
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Rashers



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Just to make it clear, there are no Motorways in Norfolk. To be honest, we struggle for dual carriageway.
Post #523153 11th Apr 2016 6:34pm
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Cupboard



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That's something that always amuses me about DPFs. "Just give it a blast along a motorway in 4th every now and then" - do you realise how far I have to drive to get to a motorway? Or a dual carriageway where I can realistically sit at 70 for an extended period? I'm about 2 hours away from an M road, and probably an hour or so to a decent stretch dual carriageway. Mind, that is a good thing IMO!

As for topping up a little bit... meh, I've never seen the point. I will if I'm on the motorway and they're overpriced, and I will if I'm in a work vehicle and just need a little to get back home to our diesel tank, but apart from that it's not worth the hassle of having to go out of my way to a fuel station. Actually the place I do my shopping is affected by how much fuel I've got. If I'm filling up, then Tesco is easier, otherwise I go to Lidl.

One of the most frustrating fill ups I've ever had was about 9PM one evening after a long drive back from South Wales the other side of Merthyr Tydfil. I'd done about 700 miles in our old van (brilliant thing that was) and the fuel light came on about 20 miles from home. I was pretty confident I had enough, but wasn't sure and really couldn't be bothered running out and I was tired and grumpy already. So I put about a fiver in Very Happy
Post #523160 11th Apr 2016 6:52pm
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steventheplumber



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Norfolk in good, no motorways where do you by your flowers?.


I am filling up every three to for days. You get to work out the cheaper stations £100.07-£108.09 at the moment.
Post #523163 11th Apr 2016 6:56pm
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leeds



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Apparently if you fill up in the morning (cold) the fuel is denser?



A bit of urban myth I think.

Most fuel tanks are below ground so the temperature of the main tank varies very little. Just think underground water pipes are about 2'/600 mm underground and in the UK no matter how harsh the winter our underground water pipes rarely freeze up..

Most UK fuel pumps have temperature compensation on anyway. Not sure how that works.

There is the 'myth' that fuel companies rip you off as if it is 1 litre at 109.9 p you get charged 110p. We can only pay for fuel in round £s Once put in 100 litres and at 109.9 it showed £109.90.

I believe in quarter to brim, if light comes on it is straight to nearest fuel station and price there is irelavent.

I would rather have the ability to travel someone at the drop of a hat, rather then run the risk of running out of fuel.

Yes £10 of fuel might be because that is only they can afford. Running fuel tanks low, yes is more fuel efficient if a fuel station is on your standard route. If off route I would have doubts about the fuel efficient argument.


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AJC



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I know some one that gets a new car. Fills the tank. And then goes petrol station every day after work to top it back up.


I always fill tank unless it's in my escort. Which gets what it needs as it could be 6 months before it moves again
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When I was a yoof I used to fill up at my local Esso in multiples of £6 - just to get the maximum tokens...
After about 5 years of saving, and armed with about 600 tokens, I got a Censored CD player that lasted about a year. Rolling Eyes
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steventheplumber



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Post #523183 11th Apr 2016 7:23pm
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walfy



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Post #523199 11th Apr 2016 7:54pm
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Rashers



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National Petrol Stations. Service with a Smurf! My Mum's friend worked in a garage that had National petrol. She got me a large Smurf poster which came out of one of those concrete weighted forecourt sign. I was very proud of that poster....... Wasn't National part of BP?
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Swac3



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Ahh cold fuel, well as Leeds said its an urban myth but based on sound fact.


Cold fuel is denser than warm fuel so yes though you get the same number of litres in your tank butit weighs more so you win.

Trouble is underground tanks are fairly stable temperature wise and the volumes we put in our cars is so small.

Take the fill to large aircraft and compare the weights of jet fuel delivered from underground tanks to that delivered from fuel tankers that are sat out in hot climates and you do get big problems... mainly fill to he brim with nice cold fuel and it leaks like hell as the temperatures rise though the day.

We used to leave space for this expansion in the tanks, but it also messes with the weight calcs for the crews of the really big jets somewhere near to + 1 lb per 10 gallons per 25 degrees f drop.

Got to remember our fuel does vary in SG somehat between refineries and even tanker to tanker within the spec allowed abut the variance from lowest SG on the warmest day to highest SG on the coldest day isn't likely to win you more than maybe 1/2 a litre or so on a 50 litre fill even if the fuel was stored topside in a tank that was subject to wide fluctuations.

Anyway its not going to buy us a free greasy sausage roll, but not brimming your tank at the ripoff M way service stations will Smile 3 Landrovers
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miker



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I do quite a lot of driving and don't like fuel stops!

Fill till it clicks, pay on card, get away!

I also don't routinely go below a quarter tank, at least that way I know I always have 50-100 miles in case I need to get somewhere urgently.
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When I had cars with more than thimble sized fuel tanks and I wasn't doing so much milage I would usually need about 8 quids of fuel a week so I would always put a tenner in and let the level creep up then when I went to a show or something I had extra fuel. This worked with cars with 80 odd litre capacities but in the jimny or 90 with 40 litre tanks it doesn't make enough difference. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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