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repeat on the remaining bolts/nuts leaving the bolt at six o'clock till last three hands help now if not familiar then hold the bottom of the wheel to stop it canting on the thread then remove wheel. Do your stuff . Then refitting is reverse save for fitting a torque bar to the buzz gun (20nm) lower than required then a final torque up with a digital torque wrench .
| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3784   
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G'Day Ken.
I'm aware of all that, & the theory is good,......for an operator who CARES,...but many don't, & if I had a dollar for every burn mark/scuff I've seen on nut recesses, I'd be a rich man. But look, to be honest,I don't really care if they use a gun or not, as long as there's NO marks on my rims, and the nuts are not over tightened. It's finding a good operator who really CARES, which is my major concern,and that can be difficult. And I don't mind a bit of extra cost for a bit of extra care,...I just want the job done "RIGHT". Like I said, even lifting the car can do damage if not done correctly! Pickles. |
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4th Jan 2016 5:18am |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328 
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The problem is fairly simple the idiots who own these outlets pay peanuts for one of the most important jobs on any motor vehicle. Unfortunately very few of these guys care .
I'm lucky enough to have the kit to do it properly for myself and the company I represent a few forum peeps have been over to my facility I've talked them though the process Find a good local Indy and support them however most people are driven by cost so they buy cheap and expect premium service the two rarely go hand in hand. So the small Indy disappears This was demonstrated a while ago on another forum I'm a firm believer of you get what you pay for  |
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4th Jan 2016 5:45am |
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| mcma1 Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 2892 |
Recently took the RS6 into a garage for a tyre repair....not my usual as he was shut for the holidays. Anyway sitting in the waiting room I could hear someone revving the nuts of it, I don't mind a bit for the smiles and giggles but this went on and on, hitting the limiter for ages. Went out, jumped in the car and went home... Clowns Andy
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4th Jan 2016 7:30am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5813  
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Don't think it's just tyre fitters. Shoddy workmanship and 'give-a-f***' mentality is prevelant everywhere these days. It's just with tyre fitters (as an example) you see the damage (physical and fiscal) to their amateurishness. As it happens, I use an indie here in France, and he's generally very good. But he's a car nut, who builds, preps and rallys his own cars. He loves talking cars, motors, racing etc when you're there. He loves 'Le Def' (as he calls it) as well, but whether that improves the service over a big standard Renault Clio client I have no idea.
Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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4th Jan 2016 9:08am |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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We have had quite an amusing incident with one of our tractors which had a puncture repaired by us (we do a lot of that sort of thing ourselves). The chap doing it left a tyre lever in the rim without realising it and as a result the tractor was making some very weird noises when driving along slowly. It was due for sale anyway so it left after a few months of making funny noises with us thinking something major was going wrong with it. The people that had it off us eventually returned the culprit!
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4th Jan 2016 1:20pm |
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| dave18 Member Since: 11 Jul 2015 Location: Gorleston, Great Yarmouth Posts: 497 
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Cupboard any hints to who you use as I know a large company that does a lot of agricultural equipment and one of the fitters wouldnt surprise me if that was all he left!!!
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4th Jan 2016 6:04pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971
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The tyre lever in question was entirely our fault
Well, it was way before I worked here, but the chap that did it knows he did it and it's long enough ago to laugh about it  |
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4th Jan 2016 7:59pm |
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| Cuthbert Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: Up North Posts: 1535 |
Ask yourself the following question. "Thinking back to your schooldays and remembering a class full of kids, did any of the smart kids ever become a tyre fitter!? It is rare to meet a tyre fitter that has any interest in or comprehension of the function of a tyre. There is one major tyre fitting chain that even specified non-qwerty keyboards as their staff weren't the brightest bulbs in the box. |
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8th Jan 2016 8:25am |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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One of our fitters is a BSC SOE MIRTE MICFM
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8th Jan 2016 9:10am |
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| dave18 Member Since: 11 Jul 2015 Location: Gorleston, Great Yarmouth Posts: 497
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Cuthbert, think that's a bit of a sweeping statement. Bit like saying all English are Bawbags!!
Two tyre fitters I know are motor heads ok one isn't very mechanicaly minded but if you show him something he will remember it. Think its more of a pay peanuts get monkeys! When I was in my late teens and unemployed the job centre put me on a 1 year NVQ / C&G motor vehicle course commonly known as the fast fit course as it's supposedly what the big chains put their ladds on. There was 12 ish of us 4 of us knew spanners the others were idiots. When it came to the exams (online multiple choice) the 4 of us were doing 90min exams in 15mins. Governing body came to college to see where we were sitting and every thing as we had all got 100%. Some of the idiots barley got pass marks. Questions like here is 4 pictures which one is a axle stand!! What torque setting should you do wheels up 10,50,300lbft , manufacture specs? |
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8th Jan 2016 11:27am |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971
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None of the above, my torque wrench reads in Nm
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8th Jan 2016 1:13pm |
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| George G Member Since: 02 Feb 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 21
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ummmm...  |
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8th Jan 2016 1:51pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Seems even a tough question for Land Rover (Customer Relations) themselves.... 
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8th Jan 2016 2:03pm |
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| Rickydodah Member Since: 14 Jul 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 1091 |
In my experience tyre fitters are like everyone else in life there are some really knowledgable people who have a wealth of experience and are very skilled, and some as we all know are the opposite. I had almost thirty years in an engineering environment and worked with both types. Recently I had some involvement with a civil court case and the barristers and solicitors, those members of society we would think we're highly educated also fell into the above categories. One was brilliant and I was surprised that she would have taken on such a case but the two others would have struggled to find their way home they were so inept. CPS lawyers are normally pretty cute but those acting for legal aid clients.......well those with this experience will know what I mean. Incidentally as well, my doctor is very good, the other in the group practice I wouldn't let open the mail. So good and bad in all walks of life I would have said.
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8th Jan 2016 5:34pm |
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