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Shiltmeister

Member Since: 06 Dec 2014
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 32

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alaska White

Diff oil change

Hi folks
Changed the oil in front and rear diffs 2 week ago on my 2009 Puma. Unfortunately the drain plugs dripped ever since so I drained them again today to put sealant on the plugs this time. Anyway the 2 week old oil I drained out was very dirty already and completely black in the front diff.
Is this normal or should I be concerned? Possibly the original oil I drained was so dirty its still dirt left over from then. What do you think?
Cheers

21st Jun 2015 8:57pm

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

Yes Mate,

the oil is mixing with the CVJ grease, quite normal. Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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22nd Jun 2015 6:57am

cobra_mark

Member Since: 17 Feb 2015
Location: West Yorks
Posts: 213

2000 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Barolo Black

Is it a big job to stop to stop the grease leak through?

I guess over time the seal goes and it intrudes.

22nd Jun 2015 11:28am

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

I've possibly got the same issue - whilst it may be "normal" in the sense that many have this issue, it's not how my axle was designed. The axle shaft seal must be leaking.

22nd Jun 2015 11:30am

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Depends on how often you want to strip it down to replace the seals to keep it how it was designed. It will not do any harm, perhaps a little leakage at your wheel centres may be evident later. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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22nd Jun 2015 11:58am

shaggydog

Member Since: 12 Aug 2012
Location: Kent
Posts: 3347

1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue

Its not a massive issue, it is definately one of those jobs which is about £2 of parts but £100 of labour.

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There be the seal.

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Thats the axle it comes off.

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If your only doing the seal you can get away with just removing the hub assembly whole with the ball intact. However it will be effing heavy!

If it was me, I really wouldn't worry. I only did mine as it was off to do the swivel and it needed doing.

I wouldn't bother making a special task to do it, wait until your swivels are warn or you need to replace a swivel bearing and then do it all in one go

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22nd Jun 2015 12:29pm

Shiltmeister

Member Since: 06 Dec 2014
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 32

Thanks all for the replies. Glad to hear its a common issue and not a serious one. I suppose I'd better add that job to the list of others for the future.

Do you think there is a perfectly working Defender somewhere out there? I wonder........

22nd Jun 2015 5:52pm

I Like Old Skool

Member Since: 23 Feb 2015
Location: Manchester
Posts: 809

1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi ST Coniston Green

The swivels used to be filled with EP90 the same as the diffs before Landrover introduced all this one shot CV grease nonsense. I have flushed my swivels out with EP90 and gone back to oil as it is easier to monitor the level and check for any water ingress. It also avoids the problem of the grease mixing with the oil when the seal fails

22nd Jun 2015 6:53pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

I always thought oil is better then grease as it gets up around top swivel better

grease was only a bodge repair to save having to replace the hub seals when they started leaking

22nd Jun 2015 7:04pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8029

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

oon some of mine i have taken the seal out to allow the migration of oil between them, i wouldnt worry about it. Cheers

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22nd Jun 2015 7:13pm

Phil VM2.5

Member Since: 28 Mar 2012
Location: Limelette
Posts: 196

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

I Like Old Skool wrote:
The swivels used to be filled with EP90 the same as the diffs before Landrover introduced all this one shot CV grease nonsense. I have flushed my swivels out with EP90 and gone back to oil as it is easier to monitor the level and check for any water ingress. It also avoids the problem of the grease mixing with the oil when the seal fails

Hi,
I have the same problem, grease going somewhere, a part in the diff because the level was to high.
I have try to empty the swivel of the grease , not easy , did one screw of the pin holder.
On one side, nothing, on the other side a little. (3 years, 84.000km )
Try to put the one shot grease inside, forget to turn the wheel ...

So , I agree with you, the problem is that I have any level hole anymore !
Phil current : defender 110 sw 2.2 puma 2012 and 230.000km today and
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7th Aug 2015 6:11am

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