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Shax



Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: London
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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
"Death Rattle" update
Hi chaps,

quick update on my DIY clutch swap...

The clutch has been replaced, as was the release bearing..
Gearbox, hand brake assy and transfer box back in place, all wiring done. propshafts lubed..
Still got a few bits to replace, oil to squirt into the appropriate orifices, etc, but by and large, it seems to have been a good old "heavy lift workout!"
Found the "missing" GB bolts.. A LOOONG 1/2" extension, and dropping the GB is the answer..
Even after taking the GB off the transmission jack, it was still too tall to come out fully, but I had enough space to change the bearing..

The old ORIGINAL clutch plate had almost zero wear, and the cover plate still had the original machining marks..
BUT the springs rattle like a bag of spanners in a washing machine and the centre hub was loose.. Not far off a full self destruct!

Happy days! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy ... ,-------,
.. I [__][_]|__
.. I __ |"_|"__|
.. "(o)====(o)"
^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^
PAUL
G7ALW 14.200 USB
26FB458 / 27.275 SSB
Post #432669 21st Jun 2015 8:42pm
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nidge n



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Sounds like a good job. Mine is heading towRds the unwanted rattle, chattering away whilst in neutral . So heading for a replacement clutch, quick question. Is the issue now resolved or will we be swapping out clutches again in another 35,000 miles? Which is the best replacement unit to buy and what other components do we swap out whilst we performing the surgery

Glad your sorted. Thumbs Up

N
Post #432687 21st Jun 2015 9:35pm
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Shax



Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: London
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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
I got an AP Driveline clutch, Borg and Beck release bearing.. Rattle gone..
The old plate was fukt.. Despite almost zero wear after 55000 miles.. And loads of second gear pull aways..
I reckon it'll have to be done again in bout 5 years.. But having done it once, I'd def give it another go..
No other bits replaced, but lubed the props while they were off..
Next time I'll do it with an engine crane through the cubby hole and tunnel, and not a transmission jack.. It's too unstable.. ... ,-------,
.. I [__][_]|__
.. I __ |"_|"__|
.. "(o)====(o)"
^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^
PAUL
G7ALW 14.200 USB
26FB458 / 27.275 SSB
Post #432688 21st Jun 2015 9:42pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Transmission jack used properly shouldn't be at all unstable! It was a transmission jack, not an ordinary trolley jack, that you were using?
Post #432811 22nd Jun 2015 12:32pm
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Shax



Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: London
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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Yep, Draper transmission jack... It wasn't the fault of the jack to be fair... The gearbox has so many bits poking left right up and down, It's bl00dy hard to get it balanced.. Even poking bits of ply under the GB didn't help when it needed wiggling, they just fell out.. Maybe I should have gaffer taped them on!!
The cat is a right sod to get lined up.. Took the best part of half an hour.. But when it goes in.. AHHHHH!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
But despite all the frustrations, it has been a great learning experience..
The only "major" component to go back on now is the cross member.. Then a few minor bits, like gear sticks and carpet!!! ... ,-------,
.. I [__][_]|__
.. I __ |"_|"__|
.. "(o)====(o)"
^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^
PAUL
G7ALW 14.200 USB
26FB458 / 27.275 SSB
Post #432923 22nd Jun 2015 9:22pm
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Shax



Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: London
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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
All sorted!
Hapy to report that I had ZERO nuts n blts left..
Clutch is much smoother and a hell of a lot lighter...
One heck of a learning curve, but oh so satisfying having done it myself.. And much cheaper than going to the Stealers..

One tip, fill the boxes from the cubby hole, don't try it from below.. My pressurised bottle worked brilliantly.. less than 10 mins to fill both boxes.. (???) ... ,-------,
.. I [__][_]|__
.. I __ |"_|"__|
.. "(o)====(o)"
^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^
PAUL
G7ALW 14.200 USB
26FB458 / 27.275 SSB
Post #433188 23rd Jun 2015 10:26pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Re the jack, you may find it is worth (as I did) taking a flat piece of ply and screwing some blocks etc to it so that it supports the box safely and the blocks can't fall out. A ratchet strap (or the jack's chains) will then hold it securely. For the t-box, if you don't have the LR jack adaptor, then a wedge shaped block with a lip to stop the box sliding off does the trick.

Filling the gearbox is so easy from above, isn't it? I have contemplated putting an access panel in the floor (in the same way that early series vehicles had) but with all the carpets etc it hardly seems worth it.

I am glad that the job went well for you! It is a major and quite daunting task the first time you do it, but a great feeling when it all works and you know that you've saved yourself about £800 in dealer labour costs, and the job is done properly. When you have to do it again in 50k miles or so because the clutch springs are rattling again, it will be much easier the second time!

Well done. Thumbs Up
Post #433248 24th Jun 2015 8:13am
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Shax



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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Cheers Blackwolf.. It was a very daunting task, but the immense feeling of having done it right is well worth all the agro, banged head and cuts n bruises..
Personal confidence in your abilities is key..
I took the Defender for a decent run tonight.. What a difference a late model clutch n bearing makes.. And just proved that the dealers did fukall when they claimed to have changed bits under warranty.. ... ,-------,
.. I [__][_]|__
.. I __ |"_|"__|
.. "(o)====(o)"
^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^
PAUL
G7ALW 14.200 USB
26FB458 / 27.275 SSB
Post #433470 24th Jun 2015 10:24pm
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