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K9F



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Sorted at long last......... Thumbs Up Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Caterham



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Still no mil?

But do I care....do I heck!
Post #315692 13th Mar 2014 5:19pm
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K9F



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Caterham wrote:
But do I care....do I heck!


A word of caution....maybe you should perhaps care...even a little. I would! Something is amiss! Whistle

Caterham wrote:
I've done 5 journeys now and reved it up to 4k rpm so I would have expected to see it by now but I'm more than happy to wait a little longer before I put pen to paper and write my final letter to LR Evil or Very Mad


Wonder how receptive Land Rover are going to be when you explain your expert diagnostic techniques and engineering prowess?

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Caterham



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perhaps I should reconsider the paragraph on 'using basic engineering to resolve a complex probelm'.......

Laughing

ps. great photo. Thumbs Up
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Caterham



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Someone is playing games with me.......

Mil came on this morning 13 miles into my journey.......

On my way to the dealers Sad

Hopefully no difficult questions.
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K9F



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If you've still got the blank fitted you'll have some explaining to do. Whistle If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Caterham



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I have Whistle

Thankfully it’s in for painting so hopefully no one will be inquisitive.
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custom90



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munch90 wrote:
sorry but never know a egr to cause noises , just smoke , power issues

with all the money you have throw at it and hassle , why not get it mapped and egr off

They can do, but not knocking. Faulty EGR sometimes does chatter and cause a scraping sound but;
A. It's occasional not constant so occurs at irregular intervals although every few minutes not once in a blue moon.
B not very loud at all except for if your specifically listening for it. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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martinfiattech



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If l/r read this won`t they show you the door.
As for knocking noises egr just recycles gases it can`t make a knock unless its stuck wide open and fills the inlet manifold, causes detonation due to excessive upper cylinder temps but by that time you would notice a massive lack of power and it hunting like a pig not to mention p0402 etc being stored or other such dtc .

perhaps the engine needs a little time to run with out modifications on a normal setting so the ecu can adjust all adaptive parameters and get to know its self, settle down then readjust its self along with drive cycle learning.
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Caterham wrote:
I've done 5 journeys now and reved it up to 4k rpm so I would have expected to see it by now


So reading this thread further down, I see that the MIL finally came on now. Thumbs Up
Euhhh, did you rev it up to 8k rpm for it to do that? Shocked Laughing I have no idea of what 4k rpm would mean or would sound like with my Defender, don't think it has ever been over 3k rpm.

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Caterham



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till recently mine did know what 3k was..........

yep the MIL did come on this morning so I guess I'm reliefed to see that.....

back to the noises I suspect as has always been the there's different things at play here and the goal posts keep moving so to speak, this together with never having had a level playing field to base my comments along with some issues being intermittent its incredibly difficult to diagnose what the hell is going on.

so go the def back after the turbo was replaced and things seemed to be really good, engine response was greatly improved and this was evident in partly in gear changes being much easier as matching engine speed with road / transmission speed was far easier. suspicious of something still not being right I fitted the blank to try and eliminate the egr as I've long been suspicious of this. First impressions were great, all seemed much smoother and particularly at higher revs ie 2k +.

unfortunately time has now proven my intermittent problem still lurks.

the only thing that 'seems' to be consistent is the fact that the issue only seems to happen when the engine is warm.

with regards to the comment above about LR not wanting to know in respect of the egr being in place....well to be honest they've had over 3 years to trace the problem and haven't managed to I don't hold out much hope of them finding it now.

I've become so suspicious of my def with all the problems I'm actually wondering now if there's anyway I've ended up with one of the early engines like what Spudfan had ie the ones with the dodgey oil jets?

my other thought relates to the wiring loom / ecu (ecu what replaced but who's to say it was done right....ie dirty terminals or even poorly fitted?

apologies guys who suggested I was talking jibberish about the egr - I dismissed you but it would appear you were bang on Thumbs Up
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there must be someone out there that can either give me a damn good explanation for why I believe there's an intermittent problem or find it / fix it?
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Caterham, I will be down in Wythall for a week beginning the 21st of April (going to see Dave to get Landyglass fitted.), and if you are still having issues then, you could always pop around to where we are staying and I will plug some tools in and have a little look see if you wish? Thumbs Up
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Lorryman100 wrote:
Caterham, I will be down in Wythall for a week beginning the 21st of April (going to see Dave to get Landyglass fitted.), and if you are still having issues then, you could always pop around to where we are staying and I will plug some tools in and have a little look see if you wish? Thumbs Up
...............what tools you got that different to what he's already tried ? Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull..
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