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Natlas



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
Very interesting, wish this thread had appeared before I bought two large packs of Dynamat! Anyway, it works well and my 90SW is pretty quiet for a Landy. 2.2 90 XS
88" Series One
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Post #303106 29th Jan 2014 1:19pm
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Diablo



Member Since: 26 Oct 2011
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1984 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Keswick Green
g-mack wrote:
also i think its a wast of time and money dynamatting/flashing/silentcoating 100% of the car. always remember in my boy racer cosworth days many moons ago we used to only dynamat parts of the panels!!
reading up on it now, it seems nothing has changed.
im gonna use
silent coat bulk pack cut into 10" squares and placed around panels
http://www.deadening.co.uk/products/silent-coat-2mm-deadening-mat

then mass loaded vinyl
then closed cell foam
this is an all in one
http://www.deadening.co.uk/products/dodo-pro-barrier-mlv

than in the roof space and utility panels
this sound absorber
http://www.carinsulation.co.uk/product/adh...insulation

hopefully this will do the trick.


Before you put it all down,the correct order is:

vibration damper (eg SC)
CCF
Mass loaded vinyl



the CCF layer mostly acts as a separating layer, rather than offering any beneficial sound proofing. It stops vibrations travelling through to the MLV, which is the true 'sound blocker'
Post #303127 29th Jan 2014 2:57pm
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Tiger



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Java Black
How about...


Vibration damper (eg SC)
CCF
Mass loaded vinyl
Underfelt
Carpet

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Post #303133 29th Jan 2014 3:21pm
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Diablo



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1984 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Keswick Green
Carpet in a Land Rover!
Post #303136 29th Jan 2014 3:29pm
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g-mack



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Tiger wrote:
How about...


Vibration damper (eg SC)
CCF
Mass loaded vinyl
Underfelt
Carpet

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Then rubber matts on that!!! Lol
Be like driving a range rover! Ha ha My 109 thread

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Post #303139 29th Jan 2014 3:43pm
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mk1collector



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
I'm surprised there's enough room to climb into the cab Rolling with laughter it's certainly a lot nicer on long journeys and I haven't done the roof yet.
Post #303149 29th Jan 2014 4:25pm
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jimbob7



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Another alternative,1.5mm rubber sheet glued to the panels including cab floor,seat and wheel boxes,army surplus rad-haz kit (foil backed closed cell foam,covers the roof front to back and the sides down to the tub),rubber mat in the load area and tesco foil backed camping mat,for doors,seatbox and cab floor.
Soooo much quieter.

2mx1.4m 1.5mm rubber sheet,£50 delivered
Rad-haz kit, £18 delivered,wont get another at that price :thud:but ccf cheap enough on the web.
3 camping mats,£13.50
2 liter hi-temp contact adhesive,£20,wont get that high at that price again Shocked
3mm thick rubber mat (load area), £26,can get thicker than that for the same price on the web Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #303184 29th Jan 2014 6:29pm
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max peck



Member Since: 30 Aug 2012
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United Arab Emirates 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Dynamat
Just halfway through fitting dynamat to the 110. So far i have done the footwells, front floor panels, seat boxes and front doors. (dynamat and dynaliner).

I decided to fit it in stages in order to test its effectiveness before commiting to purchasing lots of the stuff.

I can attest to a very noticeable difference and would highly recommend the product.

Using a sound recorder app on my phone. (at 100kmph, sixth gear, radio off windows shut) the dbs has dropped from 84 average to 68. Conversations are easier and the stereo is clearer at a lower volume setting.

I have only done half the truck.

Its strange but it attenuates lots of the engine noise ,and you begin to hear things like the turbo more. Very noticeably the noise of passing cars is dampened.

The main reason I have fitted dynamat is for the heat insulation. The static temperature here hits the high fifties celcius in the summer and can make any long drives uncomfortable. Time will tell how effective it is for this but Immediately after fitting there is no more heat from the transmission tunnel which impresses me.

I am not in a position to compare dynamat with other products but can say that it works as advertised and is a very good modification for noise reduction and I hope heat.

PS: installation tip; Two sides of each sheet have the foil layer slightly overlapping the rubber. Use this for the edges where you want a nice cosmetic finish.
Post #311174 24th Feb 2014 7:15am
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KarlMD



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
I did my 90 from top to bottom with butyl, then covered the rear with rubber chequer plate.


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Post #311557 25th Feb 2014 5:46pm
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g-mack



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And the results were??????? My 109 thread

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Post #311558 25th Feb 2014 5:56pm
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KarlMD



Member Since: 26 Sep 2013
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
Results are awesome, so much quieter and at least half the price of Dynamat, I can't give exact cost as I'm away for a couple of days but if anyone is interested I will post on Friday?
I have to admit there was a smell for a week or 2 but not anymore. I put 2 layers on all panels including the doors. Very easy to cut and fit and well worth the effort.
The rubber chequer plate just finishes it off, along with the internal side panels.
I would definitely recommend it! Mr. Green Very Happy
Post #311565 25th Feb 2014 6:25pm
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g-mack



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Post #311594 25th Feb 2014 7:41pm
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993porky



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Baltic Blue
What is butyl and where do you get it from?
And how is it stuck down?
Cheers Paul
Post #311665 25th Feb 2014 9:18pm
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Tiger



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Java Black
Flashband

Screwfix

Sorry edit:

Flashband is bitchumen based

Sikaflex flashing is butyl
Post #311691 25th Feb 2014 9:49pm
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Mean Green



Member Since: 15 Sep 2011
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Scotland 
I did my 200tdi with flashing from Toolstation. Certainly made a difference with panels drumming and vibrations, but I need to find something to absorb some of the noise.

Any suggestions (preferably cheap Very Happy )
Post #311997 26th Feb 2014 10:42pm
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