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JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443 |
I was allways under the impression that if you called the fire service out and it was a non emergency call then you would be charged for their time and service.
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27th Jan 2014 1:32pm |
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Dobby Member Since: 23 May 2012 Location: East Seaxe Posts: 187 |
Yep, this is true here too. If you drive past a "Road Closed" sign, you can be done by the plod, and if you're stuck in the sk!t because of it, you'll get a recovery bill.
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27th Jan 2014 5:41pm |
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SailingTom Member Since: 19 Nov 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 1720 |
Its not always as simple as that in the UK though.
Im a Retained Fire Fighter in my second job and don't think your right on 'non emergency' calls being charged (I always thought it was a myth). I've never heard of a case where the individual has been given the bill (in Essex admittedly) It does seem to be the case about roads though, but not always. I live on a small Island in Essex, which aswell as being famous for its oysters is equally so for the Strood (Only access road which gets covered on high tides, so cut off) Normally A car goes through a month and get stranded, having to be rescued by us, the coast guard or the RNLI. Its quite a thing in our local papers about the cost as a few have had the assistance despite being advised against going through by the coast guard. (There a blue light service so shutting the road should count as a road closure) It would seem on the whole your right though as cases are currently being looked at to shut the road 'officially' when the water is over, which hopefully would lead to prosecution/ charging for those that choose to ignore this. Im always amazed that a lot don't even say thank you and I'd put a lot of money on the ones being assisted by the RNLI not ever making a decent donation! Defender puma dormobile camper |
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28th Jan 2014 7:09am |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17363 |
A "Road Closed" sign is usually, but not always, advisory, and there is no reason in law not to drive past it.
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28th Jan 2014 8:24am |
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ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831 |
If a "stopping up order" is granted to a local Authority they can close a road permanently or on a temporary basis for road works etc.. A police Officer may also close a road for public safety, any other body who stop traffic do so as a polite request.
Road Closed signs provided they are of the prescribed type and size are classes as section 22 road traffic sign and placed in accordance with a L.A. order or be the Police can be enforced. Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to us off. Richard |
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28th Jan 2014 11:36am |
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Tiger Member Since: 06 Jul 2012 Location: Wales Posts: 2265 |
Yes, you do Our office got charged, I had to pay the bill. Our Fire alarm got set off twice accidentally and it was auto linked to the FB (central London, Leicester Sq in fact so a great place to drive an Engine to ) We got a letter saying if they were called out again we would be charged. It was the toaster so we binned and banned the toaster in the office. About a week later the Fire alarm goes off again, smoke pouring out of the Microwave as one of our socially stupid software developers had tried to toast his croissant in the Microwave. I rang the FB said please don't turn up, it's not a real fire. They said "Sorry, got too, you could be an arson type telling not to turn up" They turned up, we said sorry, developer got a bloody good telling off. I got an invoice / fine that from memory was about £1500 (may be different for commercial properties connected automatically to FB via smoke alarms) |
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28th Jan 2014 12:28pm |
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SailingTom Member Since: 19 Nov 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 1720 |
Ah my bad then
Lots of the different fire services have different setups, so didn't realise that was the case. I know that Essex Fire and rescue where I work don't charge for call outs, or any false alarms. Cheers Tom Defender puma dormobile camper |
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28th Jan 2014 12:43pm |
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jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
o/t Common practice for fire brigades to charge companies for false call out's,thats generally as far a it goes tho there has been talk of charging a nominal fee for non-emergencies. b/o/t it's a brave person who say they have never done anything stupid,be careful what you wish for Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. |
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28th Jan 2014 12:51pm |
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rossy Member Since: 29 Nov 2010 Location: Co. Roscommon Posts: 1296 |
I used to work for a large DIY firm in Romford (near Essex - used to be in it in fact). We had constant problems with our fire alarm resulting in frequent false alarm call outs. Frequent generous donations of suitable stock to the fire service charity raffles avoided fines which would have been around 5k if I remember correctly.
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30th Jan 2014 8:35pm |
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