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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149   
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Indeed, it should be a voluntary code of conduct. Same as if you invited someone along who acted up in whatever way, you wouldn't invite them again...I should point out I was not specifically referring to any of the vehicles in the video, it was a general comment. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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17th Dec 2013 8:11am |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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I started one ages ago, should still be on here somewhere. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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17th Dec 2013 9:07am |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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Horse ownership is expensive - even if you have a few acres of decent grassland.
You need to take into account whether you will pay for insurance to cover both the animal [inc vet bills etc], rider and third parties or if you intend to keep a huge pot of money aside to cover potential issues. At the minimum factor in vet visits for annual boosters then there is dentistry and potential for visits by a specialist if the animal pulls a muscle, puts its back out or similar. Be mindful that vets / animal hospital bills for treatment can be thousands! Factor in regular visits every couple months or so from a decent farrier to trim / trim and shoe. What about horse transport in case you need to shift the animal? Factor in lessons, riding gear / protective clothing. Thought about tack - saddle, bridle and all the other paraphernalia? Potential schooling for the horse itself. If you haven't got land what about livery charges? I haven't even mentioned the cost of hay, bedding if the animal isn't out 24/7, what about feed? I could go on.... Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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17th Dec 2013 9:20am |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443  
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Makes owning a Land Rover seem like it's a cheaper option when you have horses
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17th Dec 2013 10:58am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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Am slightly confused about the intentions of ellebarto the OP
Started this thread here on 15th December and I think it is fair to say most people could not see much wrong with the behaviour of the horse riders filmed. I think it would also be fair to say some people raised concerns about some of the terminology used by the OP on his video. Two days later we get
on a completely different forum by ellebarto Oddly enough the people on that forum could not see much wrong with the behaviour of the horse riders either! So yes I am slightly confused about the intentions behind posting links to his video on different forums. Brendan |
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17th Dec 2013 6:35pm |
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| ellebarto Member Since: 05 Oct 2012 Location: Manchester Posts: 334 
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You make it sound like there's something underhand going on and its really quite obvious. The video is on other forums as well as the one's you have seen, I really have nothing to hide. I assume I can post a film I've made in more than one place?
I received whats fair to say a less than positive response from this forum, which is fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Largely it seems because of the title of the thread and not much else. So I learned and altered that for another forum to see if there was a differing opinion. Do you no what, there is!!! They don't all agree with you or the majority opinion in this thread as you are representing. Again perfectly fine. Its all education....for us all. You neglect to mention that the YouTube description is very clear and was added to following some education by readers of this forum! The opinion on there is massively different. There are also some comments from a horse rider that make very interesting reading and seem to fly in the face of what you say. You see I'm willing to listen and seek alternative opinions. You appear to be doing what many people in the Peaks are doing, being very selective about what you read and believe! I still maintain the video is thought provoking. Its certainly inspired a lot of conversation. It was a little tongue in cheek, as I have admitted numerous times now, but non the less accurate. The camera doesn't lie. Interpretation is another thing again! I have learnt a little about how I might approach horses in future and what one of the horses might have been doing. Check out my YouTube channel for green laning and Land Rover "how to" videos. |
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17th Dec 2013 6:51pm |
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| kipperthedog Member Since: 27 Jun 2013 Location: Down South Posts: 403
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I am a notorious local traffic hazard. My horse pulls me in a cart happily up and down A Roads and through the middle of town. He does roundabouts, traffic light, sirens and can be reversed parked in a car park. He is "bomb proof". But every time I take the road I must remember that I have attached myself to a half tonne animal whose natural instinct when scared is to run like h3ll or kick....and I have no brakes in the conventional sense. I also have to remember that the majority of other users do not understand this. If he sees something he doesn't like or doesn't understand I have to push him by it, He trusts me not to put him in danger, and he goes along with it. A good job because he has supercar acceleration! That in a nut shell is the human-equine relationship
My point is.....? Not sure really! Some horse riders riders might appear aloof and rude. Some are. But remember also that whatever they are saying or doing they are having to look at the world through the eyes of that half ton animal with no brakes and an instinct to run like h3ll when scared. And there was nowt wrong with behaviour of the drivers in the vid, me and mine would have been happy. And I do like a Bendifroot vid! |
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17th Dec 2013 7:31pm |
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| ellebarto Member Since: 05 Oct 2012 Location: Manchester Posts: 334
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Haha! Thanks for that kipper. I'll stick to what I know best in the New Year I think. I'm wearing my keyboard out replying as politely as I can to irate readers!!
Your final couple of sentences are where I'm at I guess! As I said, it wasn't an anti horse witch hunt but clearly it shows the different opinions that are out there! Check out my YouTube channel for green laning and Land Rover "how to" videos. |
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17th Dec 2013 7:59pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006 
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We have a regular who uses our access lane to exercise her horse, she has to be in her mid fifties and in all my days I have never met someone as ignorant. Our lane is very tight and once past our entrance it is effectively a path. On numerous occasions horsey woman has seen us coming down the hill often with trailers on the back and has not only been too impatient to wait for us to pass but has attempted to insist we back up, she has also on occasion come riding up the lane as we have been droving sheep down it and has scattered the sheep in all directions. I know what all the horse riding community on here will say and yes I'm sure some of you would never behave like that but as a result of her I find it difficult to deal with other horsemen with a clear mind. Don't worry I am kind to the horses its not the animals fault but the people that ride them sorry but you are all guilty of being ignorant until you prove otherwise. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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19th Dec 2013 5:18am |
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| kipperthedog Member Since: 27 Jun 2013 Location: Down South Posts: 403
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Every sport/past time/hobby has it's element of idiots that get the rest a bad name.
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19th Dec 2013 8:27am |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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You see that last sentence illustrates the mistake of making all of this into a 'us and them' issue. I might have horses but I also have other animals, do other stuff in the great outoors, own and use 4x4's, own property down a private track. This is a small and overpopulated island and we all have to make allowances and rub along together. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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19th Dec 2013 8:54am |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006
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In my defence I'm not very sociable so it's not so much us vs them more me vs the rest of you which is why I suit farming, less people more animals. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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19th Dec 2013 9:21am |
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| ellebarto Member Since: 05 Oct 2012 Location: Manchester Posts: 334
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You might be right but I can categorically say that the anti 4x4 groups in the Peaks really did start and fuel that fire. GLASS and various other groups have tried to start dialogue with them but they don't want any kind of compromise. They want us all banned full stop. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire! Taking the moral high ground in this case will just result in no lanes in the Peaks. Check out my YouTube channel for green laning and Land Rover "how to" videos. Last edited by ellebarto on 19th Dec 2013 9:38am. Edited 1 time in total |
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19th Dec 2013 9:27am |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006
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I would agree with the above and add 'fukc em if they can't take a joke!' Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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19th Dec 2013 9:37am |
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