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Toplink



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Ecu upgrade
Anyone know of any company that does an upgrade that will lust knock out the egr valve.Happy with the rest of the engine.I just can't stand egr. Its never over in my land rover.
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Post #231309 28th Apr 2013 9:24pm
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custom90



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Not that I am aware of. If you only wanted the EGR closed I'm sure they would be able to do that for you? Perhaps even for a reduced price if it is only that you want done. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Interested to know the outcome myself too. Thumbs Up $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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After looking into it it is not cost effective just to sell egr off very sorry for the time it would take to do it Thumbs Up


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3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
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Post #231399 29th Apr 2013 12:03pm
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Out of interest, what would be the price Steve? It may be worth it if that is all that people want, even if its only £20 less than a tune.

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Post #231407 29th Apr 2013 12:39pm
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wyvern



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I've just had my 110 remaped and turning off the EGR was part of the mapping process provided by BAS, did a great job from what I've had a chance to see so far.. Cool
but I also know that Prony has an EGR removal product avalible that may do the job - maybe well worth chatting to him ...
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Post #231443 29th Apr 2013 2:09pm
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EGR removal - contrary to what some people might think is not just a switch in the calibration that says yes or no...

To it properly the air path calculation needs to be changed - to account for the fact all of the air flow demanded from the engine will be coming from the Air Intake (and through the MAF) and not a percentage from the EGR system. And a few other things Whistle

What a lot of people also don't realise is that EGR does not work all of the time...

EGR will only start when the engine is at a certain coolant temp, and will only be open at idle/light/mid load conditions - working properly, the EGR system will close at full throttle - to ensure you get optimum performance when needed.

The EGR system if it goes faulty can cause quite a few problems - including excessive bore wore, oil contamination - and even a small leak will reduce performance as the EGR gas will heat up the intake air temp.

From recent experiments and testing - you need to be very careful how you disable the EGR system... all will be revealed very soon....

Toplink, why do you want the EGR system disabled?


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Post #231468 29th Apr 2013 3:51pm
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Toplink



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I want to shut off the egr because in my way of thinking what is the point of pushing dirty exhaust fumes through my engine.In time it will just coke every thing up.
An engine needs clean fuel,clean oil and clean air. Its never over in my land rover.
2007 Defender HTop.
1952 Series One 80"
1977 Muir-Hill 111.
2014 Triumph Tiger800xc
1999 Discovery 2 td5
1982 Ransomes TSR300D.
2002 Yamaha XT600e.
2010 Freelander2 (the wifes)
2008 John Deere X140
Post #231497 29th Apr 2013 5:57pm
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Porny wrote:
EGR will only start when the engine is at a certain coolant temp, and ..


That is the point where - in my foolish theory - it might be easy to gull. There should be one place in the ECU, where the coolant temperature you mentioned is stored. If that value could be changed to, say, 140°C ...
But it is not the first time I´m wrong, because I really have not the slightest idea how the ECU is programmed and works. But that needn´t stop one from talking, does it .. ? ... Smile
Post #231564 29th Apr 2013 8:34pm
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Toplink wrote:
I want to shut off the egr because in my way of thinking what is the point of pushing dirty exhaust fumes through my engine.In time it will just coke every thing up.
An engine needs clean fuel,clean oil and clean air.


That's a good enough reason lol.

I can sort it out if needed, will work out a price.


landybehr wrote:
Porny wrote:
EGR will only start when the engine is at a certain coolant temp, and ..


That is the point where - in my foolish theory - it might be easy to gull. There should be one place in the ECU, where the coolant temperature you mentioned is stored. If that value could be changed to, say, 140°C ...
But it is not the first time I´m wrong, because I really have not the slightest idea how the ECU is programmed and works. But that needn´t stop one from talking, does it .. ? ... Smile


There is more than just one map... But that is one basic way of doing it.

Ian IRB
The home of the first modified Keswick Green 90 - and the first 2.4 Puma through both the 200bhp and 550Nm barriers.

www.IRBdevelopments.com

www.facebook.com/irbdevelopments

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Post #231588 29th Apr 2013 9:33pm
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if you are all that keen for a egr removal it would be £300 but for £350 you could have it remapped at the same time ?

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3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
Post #231855 30th Apr 2013 7:50pm
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As other have said another option is Pete at BAS.

If you don't have a remap interface you can take the car to Pete / post ECU and have it returned next day. I haven't got around to it yet, but was going to do it. Cost was around £100 I think...
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the prices i have just quoted are for a BAS solution Whistle

steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
Post #231859 30th Apr 2013 7:59pm
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Porny wrote:

From recent experiments and testing - you need to be very careful how you disable the EGR system... all will be revealed very soon...

Ian


Yes, please!
Post #231955 1st May 2013 8:39am
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